A question about the new kit

@simsplayer818 I know what you mean! I remember years ago that I had a home where dad had several times when, while testing his rocket at night (in the back yard, right behind the bedroom) to complete space-related career goals, he crashed-landed and it really messed with the kids!

@jordyou23 , @PipMenace, and @gooochyeee... Not sure if any of this will be of any additional use, but if memory serves I think something I've tried when having a 'waking up' and sleep-deprived crazed Sim (several things can/have caused this over the years) is... (Be prepared to use the 'pause button liberally for most of these...)

• Command the Sim to nap repeatedly until their sleep bar is well into the green (so they aren't overly tired - as @PugLove888 mentioned). Naps don't get interrupted by nightmares and other things like sleep does.
• In one situation I queued up sleep commands over and over (and over and over!) until the Sim got enough sleep to be well into the green on that need (they were so worked up I was worried to leave the lot!).
• In any kids room, add the old stand-by 'Coolala Defender light' next to every child's bed (not just across the room), and if you have more than one bed in the room, add one by each bed.
• Make sure all needs are well into the green (also, as @PugLove888 mentioned)... and that all of the needs that will decay while they sleep are high enough that they won't go red while sleeping (just this time - while trying to 'fix' them). 
• Make sure there is not some secondary thing that's waking them (music, wind chimes, another child with nightmares, a pet, etc).
• You can also try the 'make happy' cheat, or reset the Sim (or better yet, go ahead and do both!). (Click here for directions on this, if needed.)

Then, once you get everything all set up for them to be green and put in bed, etc.... go ahead and save and exit the game. Then re-enter the game and the household with the child and see if things are going normally for their sleeping. (Alternatively, when re-enter the game, you could play another household for a Sim day or two so that time can pass while they're in their right mind in the other lot. If you go it that way maybe you could make a backup save of the game on your desktop before you re-entered your game.)

@simsplayer818 , yes I have heard about the problems console users are having with the latest patch!😭  I hope it is fixed soon! But it sounds as if your problem with the nightlights not working to prevent monsters existed before this latest patch.  Is it just that one household in your save file that this happens to, or do any of your other Sims kids have this problem.  That would suggest the problem is only with that lot.  However,  You could have a corrupted file, perhaps. 🤔 I know console players have only a few save slots, but can you check another save file (or create a new one) to see if the problem with the Coolala Defender light exists in those save files as well? 

Your use of fairylights in the kids rooms sounds lovely! 

@simsplayer818 I'm so sorry about the difficulties you're having building on console! That sounds awful! I love to build, but if console BB is that hard to use I must admit, I think the only building I would be doing is small renovations to default homes and I would download the rest from the gallery. Ugg! Again, so sorry! ☹️

@simsplayer818 , interesting that you have had this problem on 2 different consoles!😮 Perhaps it is a console only issue?  I couldn't find anything about it in the Bug Report Forum, but maybe I was looking in the wrong category. 🤔 I wish I knew more about the game on consoles. 

I'm very sorry about your problems with the new controls for B&B Mode on console! 😫😭 It is especially frustrating because these kinds of changes were done to help people play the game better.  And it isn't just annoying but actually causing you physical pain!😖  I hope they solve this problem. 🙏  And if you don't mind my asking, what is RSI? 🤔 (I keep thinking Rheumatoid Arthritis, but that abbreviation is RA. (  But if you don't want to answer, don't worry about it! 🥰
I do not have any pain in my hands, but I always had dexterity problems, so I can imagine how difficult these new changes would be! 

Good luck on your renovations! 🍀

@gooochyeee , thank you for the feedback on the nightlights!😇 I tested in my game as well, and both Parenthood wall nightlights worked (but the toy one does not work) as well!  I did not test the Werewolf one , so thank you for doing that! 🙌  I wouldn't expect the Bathroom Clutter kit one to work for 2 reasons: 1) kits do not have any gameplay elements (except for Bust the Dust for obvious reasons) so this would be for decorative purposes only,  and 2) being that it was a clutter kit designed specifically for the bathroom, and people usually don't sleep in their bathrooms😄, they wouldn't think to add bedroom functionality to this item, even though as a player it would make sense if we were to move the bathroom nightlight to the bedroom . 😉
As for the bunk beds, I can see how the top bunk wouldn't have the monster animation, so I guess just having the bottom bunk have the monster animation , but it also waking up the top bunk occupant is a nice compromise for the bunk bed! Thank you for your research! 🥰

@simsplayer818 , thank you for informing me on what RSI stands for.  I'm not sure, but I think that is the same thing we call Carpel Tunnel Syndrome in the U.S. 🤔  If it isn't the same, it does sound a lot alike.  That must be terrible for you! 😭 I hope they can either change the console controls back, or else have a toggle for those that need the old way of playing! Playing the Sims is important for many people's mental health, so it shouldn't contribute negatively to anyone's physical health! 😓

I"m a bit confused. I must be misunderstanding something. You stated "I think the problem has been that I always have the Starry night one included in the mix and it has somehow cancelled the effect of any others. I often have the Night Owl or Regular ol night light with it. But I tested those and they work on their own, but not with the Starry night one."

I understand that your Starry night nightlight isn't working as it should to keep the monsters at bay, but when you mention the Owl night light, do you mean the little egg-shaped owl nightlight that doubles as a toy that came with Parenthood?  You said it is working, but that one isn't one of the nightlights that is supposed to keep monsters away! I don't know of anyone who has had it work before.  I know you aren't using a Mod since you are on a console! 😄 Did they fix it to work and nobody knew of it?😮🤔 I'm really confused! 🤪

I'm very happy your game isn't crashing anymore!!! 🥳

@simsplayer818 , lol I understand!  There are a lot of items in this game and it often gets confusing! The owl does give a nice happy buff, but it doesn't keep the monsters away! It must have been a coincidence! 😅 

I have no idea what is up with your Starry Night nightlight! 😮😓  That one should work!!!  The Starry Night , the Regular 'ol Nightlight, and the Coolalala Defender are the only ones I know of that I also recently tested.  And you said that the one from the Werewolves GP also works (I haven't tested it yet, but I will assume it works based on your info! 😊 )

I believe you said that you have tried the Starry Night one on multiple lots.  I can't remember, but did you try it on multiple saves as well?🤔 🤔 (I'm sorry if you already answered that earlier).   I was hoping that this problem was only in the one save. 🤞

@PugLove888I so far just have the one brand new game I'm rebuilding with a backup save and it's definitely not working on this one. But in my previous saves (that I lost due to error codes or crashing) I had monsters with it as well, it's my favourite one to use and seems to be the common factor. This new Sim I'm bringing back today has a little bedroom ready for her arrival from the children's home (😭) so I'll test it again on this lot which is the Narwhal Arms converted into a quirky bungalow.

Edit: I thought I'd posted the image of poor little Linus freaking out but I hadn't so I'm attaching it now, bless him. This is from a couple of weeks ago. I don't have the Werewolves pack so I couldn't say about the light from that pack. Testing again on my current household has the other nightlights working but not the Starry one. So I think I've confirmed that in my game now. Thank you for helping me figure it out! My little Sims thank you too lol (they're not so happy with me for the experiments though lol).

@simsplayer818 It still bothers me that the Stary NIghtlight isn't working in your game ! 🤔 🧐🤷‍♀️😭 But at least I was able to help you somewhat, even if it took a while! If you ever find out what the deal is with your Starry Nightlight, please update us!  And I hope all your little Sims (and their parents!) have a blissful night's sleep! 🥰

Are any of the nightlights supposed to prevent toddler nightmares? Because I could have sworn they used to, but even the base game Defender nightlight doesn't seem to anymore for me. Though there could be something else going on with my save, because I've twice now reopened my game to find the Defender light has turned into the basic non-monster-preventing base game night light, and had to swap it back again. Odd little bug. None of the rest of my build gets dropped and nothing seems to have been lost in game play... just the one object getting switched out occasionally. I've been trying to figure out if there's any way I could be doing it myself accidentally, but even if I had grabbed the wrong one originally how would it come back again after I fixed it?

@PipMenace I haven't raised any toddlers recently (but that's going to change with the baby update!), but last I knew toddlers don't get nightmares - only children. And I never remember a nightlight autonomously changing to another item for me. However, items are sometimes switched out for something the game sees as a 'logical substitute' if you place something that had items you don't own in your game (such as from a pack you don't own). But it doesn't sound like this is applicable in your case. Do you have a Mod that changes toddler or similar dynamics that could be interfering and causing the toddler nightmares?

@PipMenace Silly me... I was associating what you're talking about with monsters (the 'Coolala, the Defender Wall Light' - and certain other night lights works for that, but only children get the monster scare). I guess I never noticed that they can wake up scared. I just asked a friend about it and she said she usually avoids this by reading the toddler to sleep. (Thanks, @MapleSimmer ) I do have my Sims read them to bed usually, though, so maybe that's why I never noticed this? 

Just a thought... Sims will wake up to tv, music, chimes, etc, and sometimes pets will wake them. I doubt that's what you're mentioning, though.

You may want to make sure the toddler's needs are as full as possible when they go to sleep, too. 

@PipMenace. Toddler nightmares can be prevented by raising one of the skills. I think it's the Thinking skill. You'll see a notification about sleeping better through the night.