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aodoherty
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
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About flirting to friend sims

Hi, I have 5 sims, four sims are male sims and 1 sim is a female. The male sims are R, J, S, and G. The female sim is S. The 1st story is made before female S joined my household. R and female S was...
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  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    4 years ago

    I think it's safe to say that Sims without the Romantic trait ABSOLUTELY DO autonomously flirt if they feel flirty. The Sims that led me to disabling random flirting in MCCC were:

    Goofball, Music Lover, Child of the Ocean

    Foodie, Ambitious, Materialistic

    I ended up cheating Player onto every adult played Sim in one save, which made them autonomously flirt (more) 😉 but at least their relationships weren't ruined when they did it. (The reason "more" is in parenthesis is because in both cases the "autonomous flirt" was "some rando was flirty and did some social that they didn't outright reject but didn't respond in kind," but it upset their spouse... and my plans. I've seen other flirty sims autonomously use "Enchanting Introduction" on Patchy (lol what no!), etc.)

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JonaO703
Hero
4 years ago

@siirysiir Hi!  I agree with @aodoherty .  Sims tend to flirt while flirty.  ;-)   Maybe also check if your sims still have a romance bar?  Even if the bar is empty (no pink color) this indicates that the sims had romantic interactions at some point.  I've noticed sims are prone to autonomously flirt with other sims if they have a romance bar, even when they're not in a flirty mood.  I'm not completely certain but I think the only way to get rid of relationship bars is for the sims to cease all interactions and eventually they will forget each other.  There may be a mod for it but I don't know of one.   Hope this helps!

  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Yes, Sims autonomously flirt and it annoys me very much, even more so since the addition of Sentiments because then the other party often gets a horrible "Furious about Cheating" or stupid "DEEPLY BETRAYED!!!!!!!" sentiment.  There's an MC Command Center option under Tuner to stop random flirting, and I use this. I posted about this on the bug report forums and included some of my solutions here:  https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Innocent-spouse-accused-of-cheating-because-NPC-is-flirty/m-p/10194585#M178145

    1. I feel like it's ridiculous that my Sim reacts the exact same way to their spouse doing a little flirty wave at someone as they do at seeing their spouse woohoo someone else. Ugh! Show a little proportion, please! Especially since I've seen it be the rando flirted at the spouse!

    2. I also feel like my Sim shouldn't autonomously "cheat on their spouse" unless their relationship is on the rocks. If your romance bar is 100% and you KNOW your spouse is going to freak out and it will ruin your relationship, maybe don't do that stupid little flirty wave at a rando?

    Side note: I've seen people posting to the bug report forums that the persistence of significant others showing up at work, etc., if they have a key seems stalkerish.  I personally find the flying into "DEEPLY BETRAYED" rages over behavior that is subtle enough that the player didn't see it happen seems borderline abusive. ESPECIALLY when it's an NPC flirting with the spouse rather than the spouse starting it!

    • LeissaMyst's avatar
      LeissaMyst
      New Veteran
      4 years ago

      Play with jealous sims much?

      Jokes aside, I can see the problem, Sims shouldn't autonomously flirt unless there's some external reason to flirt, and just being receptive of a flirt isn't the same thing as being the initiator. But honestly? This is exactly why the jealous trait exists, it's the "Deeply Betrayed" by "Common Flirt" mechanic, it's a negative trait to be sure, but it's realistic. I honestly tend to stay away from negative traits as much as possible and generally don't have this issue (mind you I don't flirt much to begin with)

      • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
        xochiquetzl_xkvn
        Seasoned Ace
        4 years ago

        I don't play with Jealous Sims, no.  I tried it once and was deeply annoyed by it.  She was constantly either tense or uncomfortable.  Tense: my spouse isn't standing next to me.  Uncomfortable: my spouse is talking to someone who isn't me.  Sheesh!

        The worst examples of "someone flirted with my spouse and I got an awful sentiment" were 1. Good, Family-Oriented, Cheerful, and 2. Geek, Genius, Cat Lover.  The first one was on the third date for the final level of the Soul Mate aspiration, and they'd already earned gold, and all of his queued romantic interactions sent their romance bar to like 75% red so I rage-quit without saving.  The second was a legacy save immediately before I planned to conceive the heir.  *facepalm*  The Legacy Challenge has the rule that you're not allowed to rage quit so I had him spam smooth apology over and over and over again while plotting their horrible deaths.  😉  (I didn't harm them, but I did stop playing them. I just... can't let my Sims die, which means the Legacy Challenge isn't for me.)

  • aodoherty's avatar
    aodoherty
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Here's G male sim. Currently she is engaged with R. She WAS a girlfriend of Grant before, and the romance bar was empty  but still remained after being back to friend. I erased the pink relation bar completely by using 'destroy.relationship' cheat. G and S female sim became totally strangers. Now they are just good friends but I still don't trust them, so I installed 'no random flirt mod'. I had no choice.

    @xochiquetzl_xkvn 

    I wish they have the right to refuse to be flirted with other sim if the sim has the proper lover like the sims 3 sims. I don't use mccc, so I just installed no random flirt mod.

    @LeissaMyst 

    I tried the sim with jealousy trait long time ago, and I don't give this trait ever again. :D I have no idea with the jealousy sims.

    @siirysiir 

    Of course, G sim had romantic trait but the problem is that S female sim flirted to G first. G hasn't flirted with her without my command. Also female S sim's traits are Self-assured, art lover and insider. She doesn't have any romantic trait herself and also she has never had any romantic traits since she was born. I don't mean I blame her. I just want to know if it's possible sim who doesn't have any romantic trait, can flirt to other sim who has never been her boyfriend before. Anyway, I installed no random flirt mod now, so I feel more comfortable now and this is not a problem any more. Thanks. 🙂

    • LeissaMyst's avatar
      LeissaMyst
      New Veteran
      4 years ago

      To Answer your question: I've never had a sim flirt autonomously (while in an active household), and I avoid the "Romantic" Trait like the plague (i also avoid generational play like the plague too so...go figure). The Only Pink Bars my sims have ever gotten were out of my direct instructions to flirt with other sims (that being said, I did manage a first kiss on a first date, followed by wedding with a GHOST who eventually rebecame human at the wishing well :P). I think it's fair to say Sims without trait-based incentives do not flirt, unless given a reason. My Sims only have flirted with sims I instruct them to, and nobody else. Albeit I take more direct command over my charges (sims) than most people, going as far as to instruct them on what to eat and helping them "put away" leftover salads.

      Edit: Also I would say that any history of romance - whether positive, negative, or completely neutral, is enough to start the ball rolling on autonomous flirting. As long as the bar exists they're fair game.

      • aodoherty's avatar
        aodoherty
        Seasoned Ace
        4 years ago

        @LeissaMystI know what you mean and I've believed in the same way too until she tried to flirt with male S. Thanks. 🙂

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