rlc77
10 days agoSeasoned Ace
Family Trees
I hope this post is not closed down because it is not a bug report but I am looking to engage other players on what they do regarding an issue I have found in the game. I play rotationally and have ...
I hope this post is not closed down because it is not a bug report but I am looking to engage other players on what they do regarding an issue I have found in the game. I play rotationally and have been excited to create extended family relationships across many sims in my game (siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc). Obviously I cannot keep them all in one household to retain their relationships (and this doesn't always work anyway).
As I've played, I have been forced by updates to the game and various bugs to restart my save game file many times. This has required me to use MCCC to try to recreate and maintain family relationships among my many sims when I transfer them to a new save. Trying to do this without mods is very often impossible. I find myself constantly chasing my tail as relationships break, spouses become siblings, the relationships I set up just randomly change to other random relationships (most recently one sim's parents became her husband's parents instead when I tried to add her sister to the game and to the family). As soon as it seems I've got everything set up right, the family tree breaks somewhere else.
My frustration with this is, of course, immense. But that is not what this post is about. I'm asking, those of you who may experience this issue or try to play extended families - what do you do? Do you just keep track of family relationships outside of the game and just pretend in the game, ignoring the in-game family tree altogether? Do you just give up having extended family? I'm at the point of just not bothering with family or maybe just not playing the sims 4 at all anymore (again frustration). Are there any other options?
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As I've played, I have been forced by updates to the game and various bugs to restart my save game file many times. This has required me to use MCCC to try to recreate and maintain family relationships among my many sims when I transfer them to a new save. Trying to do this without mods is very often impossible. I find myself constantly chasing my tail as relationships break, spouses become siblings, the relationships I set up just randomly change to other random relationships (most recently one sim's parents became her husband's parents instead when I tried to add her sister to the game and to the family). As soon as it seems I've got everything set up right, the family tree breaks somewhere else.
My frustration with this is, of course, immense. But that is not what this post is about. I'm asking, those of you who may experience this issue or try to play extended families - what do you do? Do you just keep track of family relationships outside of the game and just pretend in the game, ignoring the in-game family tree altogether? Do you just give up having extended family? I'm at the point of just not bothering with family or maybe just not playing the sims 4 at all anymore (again frustration). Are there any other options?
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It is frustrating for sure. I have felt the pain of this myself. The only way for me to avoid that frustration is to use Family Echo website to make a family tree. It is free to use and very user friendly. It is too hard having to restart and using mcc (life saver mod for sure) to re-establish relationships for me. Still it is not a great solution if you like it to show in the game family tree as well. I wish someone would have a solution for that as it is so frustrating having to restart because of updates causing bugs, and having to keep doing a new save and trying to add back relationships. So I don't know if you will be satisfied using an outside source, but I don't know of any other way.
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Thank you for replying. This is what I am thinking too - that it just isn't worth trying to make the game work in a meaningful way. It just doesn't and I just end up fighting the game constantly. It's just nice when family relationships are working to have them in-game. I think I will just keep track outside of the game or just not bother with family connections. At this point I've started a new save with one sim although I know I will be bored in no time.
I've had similar problems with assigning NPC jobs, like bartenders, mail carriers, etc. I want to control who is in my game and what they do. I have used mods to help me with this (cheats can work too but that is a tedious process). But ultimately things will break down and stop working. I think they've made some changes to bartenders recently that have messed them up so I can't get the ones I assign to show up consistently even though it has worked in the past. Making bars into small businesses allows more control over employees but it's a very different thing.
I think I just want too much.
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