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Seasoned Ace

2 years ago

@CloeGreen by a box you reno what do you mean? A room, a build? Just wondering. I know that people that are claiming a Sim they created is base game but you see in the description that you have to download the items. I think of them as cc but their claim that they are base game is correct also. If you download those items it will not put a wench (that signifies cc) in the corner of the Sim upload. These are odd items in because when they are included in the game that are actually both cc but also base game.

I have made 3 Sims with those base game but also cc hair items and in the description I add the http save file location so it is easily downloaded if you wish the Sim to look the same. I don't claim it is a base game sim though.

As for the room box? or possibly room or house you have worked on then re-uploaded I am wondering if the original creator asked in the description to please not re-upload to the gallery. If they do I don't even consider renovating and re-uploading what ever their creation might be.(even a house shell) It's not worth the hassle of being accused of being a thief. I have also asked creators if they would be okay with me decorating and uploading. Most say yes but some say no. Way easier to just build my own houses, sims, tips and other items.

I know EA rules don't give a dang what you do to others downloads but I find these steps keep me from having problems. HonorAmongSimmers, RespectCreatorsWishes and FairPlay are the hastags I use on everything I upload since EA decided in the summer of 2022 that our creations don't matter or what happens to them. Before that they were against thievery. Which would be out right just re-uploading without putting any work into the build, room or sim.

I have people upload some of my sims and builds and claimed them as their own. The description has not even changed and no work done. It's not Fair Play or Honorable.

Please don't think I'm giving you a hard time cause I'm not. I am just saying how I deal with these items.

CloeGreen
New Scout
2 years ago
I suppose it was badly done sarcasm, the box comment, but it's frustrating, and can often be true. I would never have claimed others work. But you're correct. At first I wasn't trying to make anything someone else may like, I was just trying to learn and save the work in a safe place. Then I noticed some others also had the same problems I have building, and I was happy to be able to tear a house apart, to learn to make it simpler for use. I'm a better decorator than I am an architect, and some builds are beyond complicated. Worse, sometimes these builds/sims are a complete lie by the creators, and often buggy. I now know anyone can build and decorate a sims house, or a sim, with a little sharing of knowledge. There are some extremely talented sims builders/sims creators, and yes they should get credit for that, but I don't see that as a good reason to be so mean. I'm not a great talent, by any means, and I'm also not selfless, as you can see here. I'm obviously more sorry for myself, in this case, than anyone else. But I'm also not a seeker of fame or $ for the work of others. I don't feel I'm being unreasonable to want to save builds/sims for safe keeping on the gallery. I'm also not a tech-y person, but as far as I know, my library goes bye bye if my comp info does ? Therefore I'm more than a bit confused as to why that keeps being called my safe save place. As for cloud saves, a little context is needed I guess; I lost pictures of my passed parents using cloud save, and that was pretty much it for me with that. As for saving my game elsewhere, I'd have to buy another external/hard drive for that, and a big point for me, was not to do that. It doesn't matter if I can't afford to, or if I spend that $ on people that don't have much. It's a choice. If you think I sound cheap for not wanting to spend any more than I have to on games, you're not wrong. I buy my glasses at a dollar store, so I, and others can eat better food too. Cheap yes, but in a good way, IMO. Anyway, I just feel less lonely hearing that people do understand. Thank you all.
- simsplayer818
  Hero
  2 years ago
  @CloeGreen What about saying that in your bio? It's just a thought but maybe say that you are an avid decorator and sometimes put your own spin on others builds but have no cloud storage...etc.
  Also for the record, help yourself to any of my builds. I will absolutely not be offended to have anything changed. I also wouldn't be able to see it anyway lol because my search doesn't work! I don't know when I've got messages on them either lol and my Gallery spends a lot of time buffering and showing me llama pictures lately!
  And just to add, that's the second time a player has mentioned feeling alone this week because of a gallery dispute. You're absolutely not alone, I'm sure in various ways many of us have had something spoiled for us because of online abuse. I know I certainly have, but Sims shouldn't be one of them.
  - CloeGreen
    New Scout
    2 years ago
    Ugg, I'm so sorry. I commented to everyone without naming anyone. I'm not used to forums, sometimes because they are not fun, but also because I can't seem to use them correctly. Ty all !
- SheriGR
  Hero
  2 years ago
  @CloeGreen I'm so sorry for your frustration and being poorly treated by some simmers! And I'm sorry that you're having issues with your computer crashing and losing all your stuff. That is so very frustration... I had a computer before that was doing that. Ugg!! 😞
  If you don't want to or have no access to cloud storage (as @PipMenace recommended, which is an excellent option), and if you don't have an external drive that you backup to for certain files or for your computer, you can actually just use a thumb drive, or some place free like Google drive. All you need to do is go to the location that your game/computer is saving your game (for most people that's Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4)... ( Your game saves your Library into the "Tray" folder, which is inside that "The Sims 4" folder.)
  ...And you can make a copy of the "Tray" folder inside that "The Sims 4" folder, and paste that folder copy ["Tray"] onto your flash drive or upload it to a free Google Drive account. My game Library is currently full of a bunch more stuff than I normally have in it, so my "Tray" folder is pretty huge, and it's only about 3MB. If you don't have that much room on your flash drive you can reduce the number of things saved in your game Library.
  This will give you a way to save a copy of your library outside your computer, which will preserve your hard work and favorite items saved into your Library. You can also backup your "saves" file in that "The Sims 4" folder if you want to save a copy of your game saves outside your computer for safekeeping. There is a list of what each file contains at this link: https://sims4.crinrict.com/eng/2014/09/user-files-explained/
  - CloeGreen
    New Scout
    2 years ago
    Well, when I say I'm better at decorating, I mean I'm really bad at building. My renos were never better than the originals, I just changed them for my game play. Some builds are so pretty that I can't believe how talented some people are, but they're so complicated that they bug on me. Also, sometimes I have to take things out, because my sims will die if I don't. I love the sims, but lets face it, if there's a way to die, a sim will find it. What I mean by lonely btw, is no one in my family, and none of my friends plays the sims. So when something happens, I have no one to ask or tell about it. I added the builds that I had left in my library, back to the gallery, just to save them. I can't see any trouble with them, so I hope it's okay. I do miss many of the renos that had other people's names on them as the original creators, because most were very large renos or I spent a lot of time on them. But, I deleted them, and I will try to start over with the suggestions you all gave me. Thank you all for being such lovely people ! Happy Gaming !
- ReneHollyDesign1
  Seasoned Ace
  2 years ago
  @CloeGreen I have had to delete my game and all of it from C drive, from documents and even the EA App from my computer a few times cause of game glitches. All the builds, rooms, tips and paintings I have made stay on the gallery they don't disappear. It does keep all build you uploaded However it's not a safe place from people who check out your gallery and might be critical of what you have saved under your name. As for library if you move your trayfile and mods from documents to desk top before deleting the game your library and mods are saved and can be re-added to the game when ready.
  I know you can make money on YouTube and Twitch showing game play, builds, and CAS but not to sure about making money from others builds? Would someone be showing a build in their game play on line because usually a mention of the original creators name is enough and a nice advertisement of their skills.
  You tube has a ton of building videos that are excellent for advanced building tips and tricks. There are many catalogs on line of house builds you might find helpful. Just type in the type of build you are looking for an you will see tons.
  I'm sorry you feel you are being ganged up on but I have to say put yourself in the shoes of the creator and think of all the work they put into a build, getting it just right as far as they're concerned just to see it up on someone else's page. Kind of heart breaking for them. It's just horrible to find someone did this to you. The person doing this only sees the build not the person behind the creation or all the work it took, only the final product that took a second for them to see not build.
  Not saying you are doing this and not giving credit only explaining reasons creators get upset. Like I said in my previous post to you I read their description and if it says please don't re-upload in any form, I stay away from it. There are a lot of shell challenges that are just begging for people to work on and upload. It's fun to play them and no one will give you a hard time.
  This may have more information than you need, it said you replied and took me back a page to what I though was your last comment.
  - CloeGreen
    New Scout
    2 years ago
    No one had any legit gripe against me, it was ego and spite. Some people are just mean. I know nice people don't want to believe that others are petty. I can't tell people how to feel, I can only speak about what I experienced. I've done Reno's, where I've changed almost every part of the decor, inside and out, with only the shell being the same, and I've still had complaints from some of those, just because someones name was attached to it. It's especially fun when the original builder says they don't care, 'it's fine', yet some rando trolls you about it ! As the saying goes,' The ego has a double life'. Frankly I believe there should be a TOS from EA, that states, 'Anything you post to the gallery is the property of EA. (Facts BTW) If you do not want it used, please don't load it to the gallery !' Other opinions will vary, of course. Also, I think I tried to explain in a previous post, that my OS gets wiped sometimes, when my comp tanks. No library will be left after that. Last year alone, I had to reformat over 6 times. That seems to be the MS go to for any problems their OS has. I think I've worked it out now. I've taken an obscure bit of CC and added it to some saves of Reno's, that someone else is the original builder of. It wont show on my gallery that way. I'm a nobody, so no one is looking for CC from me. I'm not fond of CC, but it seems to be a solution. We'll see. I'm sorry I don't answer with @, but either I don't understand how that works, or it's just not working. Apologies ! Thank you again.