Patch affects groups

Fortunately I have PlanetCoaster to keep me amused while someone sorts out this unfortunate mess.

"codyjaymke;15378168" wrote:


Of course we are all humans - but TS is not some obscure niche, it's the most important PC game on the market. It's playing in the Mercedes league of entertainment. Now imagine the real Mercedes would test their cars with such care ...

I think it's probably an issue of the testing team possibly being small. Of course people who play for a long time will notice more things, but if the testing team only play each update for a couple days they might not notice certain things and then the issue get into the game. Of it hey only test with x amount of sims. And you're right, the sims is no niche market. But no game on Earth, even those with bigger budgets have 100% perfect patches. It's just doesn't seem to be possible with the tools available at this point in time.

Coding is an extremely involved process with billions of lines of code per game. It is really unrealistic to expect coders to to be able to catch conflicts for this exact reason. They may check everything they /think/ will conflict (And this same process is usually how I pinpoint a bad mod), but you never know if through some unexpected connection you can break something completely unrelated.

We've been able to reproduce most of the club issues being reported here, but thus far we've been unable to repro the "clubs meeting at the wrong place" bug. I see that @CarpeNoctemSims says he's no longer able to repro the problem, is anyone else still having this issue? If so, I'd love if you were able to share some save files with me. :)

Thanks much!

"LeGardePourpre;15378746" wrote:
Well, it's time to set Windows Backup in order to save Program Files\The Sims 4.

The next time I will be able to restore my game without the latest patch.

The lesson here is for everyone to go into their Origin settings and uncheck the auto updates. NO AUTO UPDATES!!! (and then set the offline option) Companies always try and force updates onto users and then when things go wrong as they often do, they are left scrambling. There is no need for auto updates in a game. It is enough for Origin to inform you and then let you decide. Choice makes life easier for everyone, the modders, the players and the team.

"LeGardePourpre;15379266" wrote:
@Mendota

But we need testers who tell us the new bugs.

True, and people who know how to back up and save their existing games can be the testers. Maxis can even offer incentives for people to pre test such as $1 off the next SP or GP they purchase. This would allow people who actually play the game to test and would be more likely to find issues. There are a lot of broken games out there right now, and we don't know how much the next patch will fix them.

"LeGardePourpre;15378746" wrote:
Well, it's time to set Windows Backup in order to save Program Files\The Sims 4.

The next time I will be able to restore my game without the latest patch.

Actually windows restore does not affect the program files as far as I can tell. I tried to roll back my Sims 3 game once in restore and that did not change. In fact Windows seems to take pride in not changing your game and program files. Unless they changed things for Windows 10, that is how Windows always worked before. You could totally roll back windows or restore to an earlier place and my Sims files were never once affected. About the only way I could protect my game files was download the saves somewhere else before a Sims update.

As for the update today affecting my game badly - I really didn't try much - just checked out the Christmas stuff and tried the poppers mostly. I don't use mods or CC or Clubs at all - so did not see an issue in what I checked - other than my sim being irked she got no gift from the Cracker popper before she had to go to work. LOL.


ETA - Hubby just came in from work (he is a PC Tech) and he said to go here:

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/reset-your-windows-10-system-with-the-keep-my-files-option/


(or go to microsoft. My hubby says these instructions though do things the same way he and other techs do.)

and it will instruct you different way Windows 10 does things. He says be careful - you make the wrong choice and Windows 10 will remove everything back to factory settings including uninstall all your games. Not quite like previous versions of Windows I guess.

I'm so GLAD that I'm not one of those "run to update my game as soon as it is released" type person because this patch sounded like it really messed up some games. I will continue playing offline until it is fixed.

Out of curiosity, since clubs are being looked at, has the issue with romantic interactions causing jealousy and not happening autonomously in clubs been fixed at this point? Being able to have a free pass for romantic encounters was one of the selling points for GT and essential for some types of stories.

"Felicity;15379719" wrote:
Out of curiosity, since clubs are being looked at, has the issue with romantic interactions causing jealousy and not happening autonomously in clubs been fixed at this point? Being able to have a free pass for romantic encounters was one of the selling points for GT and essential for some types of stories.

This issues is about undoing the damage that was caused by the patch. They are not looking at clubs in general. You should post this issue to the feedback forum. Right now they are in "emergency" mode. They need to get this issue fixed ASAP.

"Writin_Reg;15379416" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;15378746" wrote:
Well, it's time to set Windows Backup in order to save Program Files\The Sims 4.

The next time I will be able to restore my game without the latest patch.

Actually windows restore does not affect the program files as far as I can tell. I tried to roll back my Sims 3 game once in restore and that did not change. In fact Windows seems to take pride in not changing your game and program files. Unless they changed things for Windows 10, that is how Windows always worked before. You could totally roll back windows or restore to an earlier place and my Sims files were never once affected. About the only way I could protect my game files was download the saves somewhere else before a Sims update.

As for the update today affecting my game badly - I really didn't try much - just checked out the Christmas stuff and tried the poppers mostly. I don't use mods or CC or Clubs at all - so did not see an issue in what I checked - other than my sim being irked she got no gift from the Cracker popper before she had to go to work. LOL.


ETA - Hubby just came in from work (he is a PC Tech) and he said to go here:

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/reset-your-windows-10-system-with-the-keep-my-files-option/


(or go to microsoft. My hubby says these instructions though do things the same way he and other techs do.)

and it will instruct you different way Windows 10 does things. He says be careful - you make the wrong choice and Windows 10 will remove everything back to factory settings including uninstall all your games. Not quite like previous versions of Windows I guess.

Windows does and always has replaced program files. But it can overlook by design program files that are not executable. It varies. If a patch changes the actual exe file that Windows will roll it back for you. If other types of files are changed it may or may not touch them. In which case you end up with an "unholy hybrid" as Pescado once described it.

What is not touched are files in the documents folder because they are considered personal data. It also excludes pictures, music and videos. The option that your husband came up with is drastic and would require a re install of all your programs, which would be of no help here as you would be installing the patched version of the game. A simple system restore will usually do the trick as long as you have set it up before you need it.