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PugLove888
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago

Re: How do you change your Sim's height?

@Psychotps, and @__B1ueFalcon__ , yes I agree -- it would be fantastic to have that feature!  As a short person, I would love to have  either a height slider, or at least 2 or 3 different height choices per age group older than toddler. ❤️  However, realistically, since they made the teens be the same height as the adults, I seriously doubt they are ever going to change this for the Sims 4. ☹️  But , I can still hope they add this for the Sims 5, if they ever make that! 😇

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  • Psychotps's avatar
    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen a game with height adjustments that didn't have alignment problems. Most games avoid having height sliders.

    Mass Effect didn't. Skyrim didn't. Fallout didn't. Dragon Age didnt.

    Mods added height adjustments to Skyrim but the animations had to "resize" everyone to the same size before running them, so you saw everyone's height go weird before the animations play.

    It seems like it's always been an issue. Most games solve the problem by avoiding it. It IS easier.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, I thought it might be some issue like that , but since I don't really play other games anymore, I can't confirm or deny these things!  Thanks for confirming the difficulty with adjusting height.  I figured that since TS4 changed the height of teens to be identical to that of adults (when both TS2 and TS3 had separate heights for teens), that there must have been some issue with heights that TS4 was trying to avoid.  I think in this case it was more of a clothing issue, since in TS2 and TS3 teens had their own wardrobes while in TS4 they have the same as adults.  That was like  a red flag to me that it must be difficult to make the same outfits fit different sizes!  TS4 gets around that by having teens be the same height as adults, which I don't like 🤒, but at least it gives teens more clothing options! :eahigh_file:  So, there is a trade off! 

    I'm still hoping for different heights for each age, or at least adults in the future versions of the Sims! 😳  I wont' be mad if they don't do it (I'm realistic 🤨 ) but I would love for them to figure it out! 😇

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @PugLove888I'm sure that's part of it. Clothing alignment and Animation alignment depends on the height of the characters. CBBE in Skyrim and Fallout solved the clothing problem with Bodyslide. It adjusts the clothing to fit the body.

    Animations aren't so easy. They completely depend on the character's body parts being in a specific location. Like a kiss animation wouldn't look right if their lips are at different heights.

    Think about it. What if the two characters are only 1 inch different in height? The taller sim would have to have the animation adjusted so they slightly bend over. What if they are 5 or 6 inches different? The animation would need to have them bend over even further, which means a different animation.

    So, a different animation for every possible difference in height? You'd need an exponential increase in the number of animations.

    So, how to solve that? Dynamically adjusted animations? Is that even possible?

    Seems like a LOT of work to fix when all you need to do is disable heights.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, That make sense! 🤨 And sometimes a seemingly "easy" solution turns out to be much more difficult to implement! 🤔

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @PugLove888 Lol. That's usually how it works. I'm darn good at figuring out how a problem works, but not so good at actually fixing them.

    I've seen this a lot in other games. For example, there's a DAI mod that allows a female main character to romance Cassandra. Problem is, the animations are designed for a male player who is always taller. So, the romance animations never line up. Most games are like that.
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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, interesting to know. 😎 I don't play with Mods, or even CC. ( Too much trouble for me to keep up with! 😞😳 ) So info like that is interesting to me. 

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @PugLove888 Thing is, mods can sometimes reveal some interesting things about games and how they work.

    Another example: There's a mod for Mass Effect 1 that allows a female Shepard to romance Ashley. Very interesting thing is, the voice files for the FemShep/Ashley romance scene were already in the game. But you can't romance Ashley with Femshep in the vanilla game, so why are the audio files there? They must have originally intended Femshep to romance Ashley and even packaged the audio files in the game, but decided to kill it at the last moment.

    I love finding out hidden things like that.
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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, yes I know what you mean about Mods being able to reveal how things work in the game even though I don't play with mods.  I was just talking to a friend who said that one of their mods shows that EA added an random attractiveness system to our Sims that is hidden! 🤨 Things like fitness, gender, hair color, and more are assigned to our Sims.  Kind of sounds like the old attractiveness system in The Sims 2!  I wish we could pick what our other Sims find attractive again!  It made for better relationships with our married Sims and made dating more fun for our single Sims. ❤️

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    I didn't know that!  Actually that seriously explains a lot of things. For a long time I've noticed sometimes I'd have a sim try to romance another and I'd have the worst time of it. I'd use exactly the same method on two others and the romance would just fly through.

    There's actually a mod for Sims 4 that I can't name here that's implementing a whole attraction system, it's a very large and well known mod. The attraction system is extremely minor compared to the rest of the mod and it's a very new feature but it's looking very nice so far.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, yes, it does explain a lot! 😃 I always thought maybe it was just the moodlets that each Sim had at the time. 🤔  And while I can see this if I'm playing a single Sim trying to meet or date another Sim that I'm not controlling -- but, then sometimes it would happen when I'm in control of both Sims, and I couldn't just chalk it up to "bad moddlets" in that case! 🤭

    On the flip side, I had a Sim that I made marry Eve Capriciosa from Get to Work.  I thought they hit it off just because she is flirty, but they really seemed to like each other! I bet they matched each other's turn-ons! ❤️ 😎

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    It makes me sad though.

    I wanted to do a test once, (I LOVE doing these) I ran across Lily Feng and she interested me. I noticed she was working as a criminal mastermind and was "Unflirty". So, I had an idea. I also made her Evil, so she was a Criminal, Unflirty, and Evil. I then created a sim who was a Detective (police officer), Flirty, and Good.

    I wanted to see how hard it would be to have my Good, Flirty, Cop romance a Evil, Unflirty, Criminal. It was actually easier than I thought. I originally thought it was because I was just very good at the game. Now I'm not so sure... ☹️

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, LOL 😃 I'm sure at least some of your knowledge helped the situation!  I love experimenting with the game as well! 🤓 I like you concept to test how personality and career affects how other Sims get along and have romantic interactions! 🙂

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @PugLove888 Appreciate it. Been doing things like that for many years. When Sims 1 first came out, the first thing I did was start playing with the relationship boundaries. Wanted to see where the limits lied. Turns out in Sims 1, Romance was forbidden only within 2 generations. A guy could actually romance his great grandmother, which is weird. They fixed that in Sims 2.
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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, its a good thing that in TS2 they fixed it!  But I can see how this was overlooked in TS1 since the only way children could age up was if you had Makin' Magic and have them use a charm for it! 😉  It just wasn't much of a problem in TS1 as it is for all versions afterwards. 

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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    Well, since the entire world was more or less restricted to a single house, Once you left the house, everything froze. You moved the kids out and the parents house froze in time until you played it again. Story Progression was non-existent. It was easy to have a house 4-5 generations removed if you didn't play the others often.