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Re: Is the doctor career supposed to be so annoying?

I agree completely it is so incredibly annoying! I've been playing it for years and still been unable to max the career because of bugs.

Other staff do nothing, the place gets filthy, the gadgets are often half broken and no matter how senior your Sim is it appears that they are expected to do the cleaning and repairs as well as tend to a hospital full of patients. Sometimes other staff just freeze in front of my Sim so they are blocked in. The diagnostics don't actually produce an accurate diagnosis, you often have to guess. The call outs take too long and mine is bugged so I can't return to the hospital after a home visit.

My tips would be to always extend the work day, keep snacks in the inventory, mood boosting remedies can be really handy to keep a Sim focused. Tend to a few patients at a time and watch them (as you are completing other tasks) for obvious signs as some things aren't clear at first. I also Google the symptoms to get a faster diagnosis and look for any obvious illnesses in people queuing too so I can treat them and get them out of the way. So if you see anyone swatting imaginary things in front of their face, that's usually Starry Eyes. Gas and Giggles is usually easy to spot too if they are laughing and have stripes. But some illnesses overlap with symptoms so that confuses things further.

This career has produced a lot of complaints over the years. I personally think the entire pack could really use a refresh, it has so much potential but it's hampered by bugs.

7 Replies

  • valohim666's avatar
    valohim666
    3 years ago

    @simsplayer818 Yeah I don't even want to get into all of the issues I've seen. I listed some in my original comment, and so much of what you mentioned I've seen as well. I also tried the science career, and it was almost as bad though maybe worse since there were days where I just couldn't do some of the daily goals. For example the garden in the science lab never seemed to function properly, so goals like watering plants or telling a co-worker to garden were impossible most of the time. This pack definitely needs some work, and I'm really glad it's a part of the EA Play Edition and that I didn't actually buy it.

    Needs aren't an issue for my sim. Before ever taking the career I spent a long time getting some of the needs reward traits, so now only fun, social and hygiene decay. Extending the work day is something I've been doing almost constantly lately, and I feel it's the main reason I've actually gotten to level 9 already (that and I have no life so I've played more than I'd like to admit). I never thought about anything for moods. I feel like I read that being focused can help, so maybe trying to boost that could be good. Yeah Gas and Giggles has been really easy to spot. In fact there was one work day where I had 3 patients all with that illness, so I easily cured them all and got promoted even with that being my first day on a new job level.

    @PipMenace I must have gotten lucky with the pregnant sim situation, because my very first work day after getting to level 8 I didn't have to wait long before the game generated a pregnant sim. I've read a lot of complaints about that not working too, so to see it happen that quickly was a huge relief. And hearing that it gets harder isn't something I like to hear, then again I've pretty much seen the annoyance factor rise with each promotion so I'm not surprised.

    Well looks like my garden glitched again. Just finished starting up the game and loading my save, and right away my garden is nothing but dirt. Anyone want to buy some dirt... it's fresh!!

  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    <unpopular opinion>I actually love the Doctor career.</unpopular opinion>

    That said, I load this page whenever I go into work: https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/careers/gettowork/doctor/

    I don't pay too much attention to the rashes. I wait until there are only 2 or 3 options under Compelling Diagnosis, and then I look at the symptoms on the page. Also, watch the patients' idle animations. They provide important clues.

  • valohim666's avatar
    valohim666
    3 years ago

    @xochiquetzl_xkvn That's the guide I've been using as well. It's been pretty helpful though I still get something wrong from time to time, especially since I can rarely ever get a guaranteed diagnosis and sims just don't like to show symptoms for me. You mentioned the idle animations, but as I said they do more idling than they do animations. Maybe I'm just rushing, and not paying enough attention I don't know.

    I guess once I hit max level I'll either quit the career or just not join my sim when they go. Overall the whole career is just too repetitive for me, the science one as well, and it's just too much of the same each time. I just don't have much tolerance for repetition anymore, so I guess these careers just aren't for me.

    Is the police career any different, or is it the same as the other two careers and you end up repeating a lot of the same things over and over? I'd like to give it a try, but if it's anything like the other two I'm not so sure I would like it either.

  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @valohim666 

    Yeah, what I usually do is queue up all the doctor stuff where he's checking patient things and while he's analyzing the sample I watch the patient and not him. (Both of my doctors are male, yes, I just realized that...) While he's doing his thing at the Analyzer the patient is swatting in front of their face, or clutching their stomach, or seeing stars, or whatever. I stll get it wrong sometimes but not as often as you might think. Also, if I can't narrow it down past two or three and have no idea I move on to another patient rather than guessing wrong.

    Also, the tests the DM 😉 suggests are not necessarily the tests that will isolate whatever the patient has. I do more tests than the DM at upper left asks me to do. The Swab for Sample followed by the Chemical Analyzer seems to narrow things down a lot, but also some conditions have fevers and some don't, for example...

  • valohim666's avatar
    valohim666
    3 years ago

    @xochiquetzl_xkvn I actually got into the habit of moving on to another patient if I can't determine an illness, and it's something that seems to have helped a little. I can not only ignore the patient whose illness I can't determine without risking a loss in performance, but if I still need to do daily tasks then I'm most likely going to need to move on to another patient anyway. The tip of watching the patients while using the analyzer seems like a really good idea, and I'm probably just too stupid to have thought of that which admittedly I am very stupid. Thank you for the tips, I appreciate it.

    @daikoyu Aw man that stinks. I was hoping it would offer a little more variety. I guess I'll try it anyway, unless it involves a lot of social interactions then I'm not about to try it until that mean bug is fixed. I also agree with what you said about consoles and PC. I play on console now because my PC is acting up, but when I can play on PC I use a really old outdated version of the game without all the current issues. Even then I still have a lot of mods in place that fix issues, but I'd rather not have those mods at all. It's great that modders can fix some of the stuff that EA doesn't, but I completely agree that the modders should be doing other things and not having to fix the game.

    Oh, one other question I thought of while playing earlier. If I don't do the daily tasks, how much of an impact will that have on my career performance? I've noticed that curing patients can really seem to bump up performance, so I had this idea that maybe I could focus on trying to cure patients and just ignore the tasks. It's probably a stupid idea, which is why I wanted to ask and make sure I wasn't hurting my performance.

  • simsplayer818's avatar
    simsplayer818
    Hero
    3 years ago
    @valohim666 If you add the Professional Slacker reward trait it won't affect your job performance if you can't or don't complete your tasks. Without it, I usually complete at least some of the stated tasks if I can to get the kind of average evaluation at the end of the day and avoid getting the terrible evaluation that does impact my career trajectory or I make it up the next day to avoid demotion. But the Professional Slacker reward is definitely worth it for these careers.
    The police career is a lot of fun but something to watch out for is that crime scenes don't always clean up afterwards as they should, so you might need to pop into build mode later and delete the body outlines and fix broken equipment if it's a house you later visit/purchase. Also your most helpful reward trait here is the Observant Trait, it's invaluable when looking for suspects. It is a bit buggy but it's also fun. You may enjoy the suspect interrogation bit and get a kick out of the Evil police chief cackling away to themselves in their office. I keep waiting for them to do something Evil but so far it's just creepy laughter.
  • valohim666's avatar
    valohim666
    3 years ago

    @simsplayer818 Cool thank you for that. I can't remember if my sim has that trait or not, but now that you mention it it sounds like it may be worth experimenting with it myself. I had one work day where I was just starting on a new job level, I had just earned a promotion the previous day, but because I managed to get lucky and cure multiple patients I earned another promotion with just one day of work. Seeing that just made me wonder if I could rely on curing patients for career performance and skip the tasks, then again if I can't cure any patients that plan would fail miserably.

    The evil chief does catch my attention, even if you say they don't really do anything. The first thing it made me think of is a character on an old comedy show that I absolutely love. The character claims to be evil, along with his sidekick, but they're both just a couple of goofs. Not sure I like the sound of having to clean up after it though, that sounds a little crappy, though if it at least sometimes does it itself that might not be too bad. You do make it sound at least a little interesting, minus the bugs of course, so I'll probably give it a try once I get a better feel for the doctor career.

    Thank you again for the tips and the info, I appreciate it.