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@nickbkcin It is unfortunate to notice that you try to put words in part that I posted. I did not write any of the things that you will find in the quotation! Why would you even insinuate that I would have a problem or even that I would be frustrated.
You wrote:
If you or any other person look at these symbols and think only about the bad part of their history, that is YOUR problem and something you'll have to deal with cause whether you like it or not, they are an otherwise innocent part of Japanese culture. PTSD can be treated. And in your case it's not even PTSD, you are just frustrated the Japanese government hasn't apologized to victims (as they should apologize) and you take it out on a game!
Please show me or even quote the frases that I would have used in my post in this topic, that would imply any frustration. And than, why would you suggest that I would be frustrated that 'the Japanese government hasn't apologized to victims'. You yourself state that '(as they should apologize)'.
I do not take anything out on a or the game. I merely stated that, I can empathise with the people in the Sims-community that might feel hurt by the animation which is now taken out of the pack.Nobody ever played that animation so there is no harm done.
I would still really prefer it when you read the parts I posted in the link I attached to my former post.
Although I asked you a question about the reason why you want to play an animation of which you know that it would hurt the feelings of a lot of members in this community, you haven't answered it yet. It seems to me that you are trying to avoid answering this question.
@TrismagistosI did not try to put words in what you posted! I simply made an ASSUMPTION based on what you said ("A part of my family lived in Asia during that war and they also suffered the occupation in that region. I would like to state here that it is not only the 'Asian ethnicities' that suffered from the war in that region as you mention in your post.").
I DID answer your question, you just focused on an insignificant assumption I made and ignored everything else in my post! I'll paste it here but change it (this time focus on the last part):
"Now, bowing animations and traditional Japanese patterns are HARMLESS. Yes, they've been used in the past to oppress people but that doesn't mean they are inherently evil. They can stand by themselves as cultural symbols and religious practices without being attached to the horrid experiences the Japanese empire put people through in WW2. They are in no way comparable to the Nazi flag or even the Confederate flag because these symbols were meant to represent hate and racism, meanwhile shrine worship and the rising flag have a long history and many other positive meanings attached to them.
If a person looks at these symbols and thinks only about the bad part of their history, that is THEIR problem and something they'll have to deal with cause whether they like it or not, these symbols are an otherwise innocent part of Japanese culture. PTSD can be treated. And in their case it's not even PTSD, they are just frustrated the Japanese government hasn't apologized to victims (as they should apologize) and they take it out on a game!
To provide another example, imagine a Muslim girl from a conservative household who has been physically and emotionally abused by her family because she refuses to wear a hijab. She becomes an atheist, moves out of her family house and now demands the hijab and other muslim clothes be removed from CAS since they remind her of her painful past. Would you support her? Or would you accept to have an item in your game that causes so much pain and sorrow to another person?"
@Trismagistos"So you have made an assumption. I was taught not to assume. Because it has the idea of prejudice and being biased!" 🤦♂️
"My professor also taught me that gestures and words can seem harmless to one but very harmful to another." Which is why this pack should be censored for Korea ONLY and not the entire planet! It's "harmful" to some of them but harmless to everyone else.
The Muslim girl might be an individual situation but her pain is the same and probably even worse than the Koreans' pain since she lived through these traumatic experiences while for Koreans it's just "cultural trauma" (most people who lived through WW2 are dead). If you think the Koreans' pain is valid because they are a large group but the girl's not valid because she's one person, you are a hypocrite.
EDIT: Since this is a real world problem, we could assume that she is not the only one with such trauma. What would you say in that case (where there are many ex-Myslims demanding EA removes the clothing)?
@nickbkcinI really feel sorry for the way you try to address me. I will not be convinced by the use of capitals nor by the use of diminutive emoticons or abbreviations. I try to address you with respect but it seems you will not return that favor.
The only thing that I can state in this case is, that I will agree not to agree with your points of view in this matter.
I am not offended by the fact that some elements were culled before the launch, and when and if you are, you should take it up with EA directly.
The fact that you are still trying to persuade me into your way of thinking looks to me a lot like a sort of religious fanaticism.
I have learned not to assume, and your last frase again, is an assumption. Which is fully yours! I wonder who this 'we' might be that you are referring to?
I will leave it at that, which in no means would suggest that I give in. I have noticed that the terms on which I would be able debate or discus with you are not on the same level of respect.
