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tyeshiaj's avatar
6 years ago

why mods aren't allowed

I'm just wondering why sims 4 just haven't accepted the use of mods. Honestly, I'm tired of the clothes and shoes that they have. I want to look like Beyonce not Holiday Heart. I wish this could really be fixed.

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  • @tyeshiaj  I've moved your post to the Sims 4 General Discussion section.

    To clarify, mods are certainly allowed in Sims 4 (or at least the PC version), they're just not officially supported.  There is a rule on this site that we can't link mods, but that's because we can't link any third-party downloads that aren't from a trusted source (Microsoft, Apple, that kind of thing).

    Of course, mods can't be added to the console versions of Sims 4, but that has more to do with how data is downloaded and stored on a console than anything else.

  • @tyeshiaj There's a difference between "allowing" mods and "supporting" mods.

    A LOT of games allow mods, many of them even include mod creation tools created by the game company.

    I don't think I've seen one yet that "Supports" mods. I don't see how they can as mods are created by fans, not the game company. They can't really support something they didn't make.

    All they can do is say like, "If you want to make and use mods, feel free. However it may cause problems in your game if it wasn't created properly."
  • Psychotps's avatar
    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @puzzlezaddict You're right about consoles. Consoles have nowhere near the capabilities of a PC.

    You know the PS3 only had 256 megs of video ram? At least the PS4 has 8 gigs but that's still nowhere as good as PCs.

    Consoles just can't handle the load demanded by mods.
  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    6 years ago

    @Psychotps  No, I had no idea about the VRAM figures on consoles.  (It does explain a lot about the PS3 though.)  My laptop's GPU only has 4 GB dedicated VRAM, but of course it can borrow more from main memory (16 GB installed) if needed.  I take it the PS4 doesn't have any memory besides its VRAM?

    I doubt Sims 4 would ever use that much, although other games probably do.  To get a PC graphics card with more than 8 GB dedicated memory, you'd need a 2080 ti, which, at $1,200 or so, is several times the price of a normal console.  Not to mention twice the price of a laptop that can currently run TS4 on ultra.

  • Psychotps's avatar
    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @puzzlezaddict Well all computers need standard memory or else the programs won't run. Video memory is extremely high-speed. A lot faster than standard memory. For example: your computer using 4 gigs video ram and 4 gigs standard ram is a LOT slower than a video card with 8 gigs of ram.

    That being said, I don't think the PS4 has standard memory. I think it dual-purposes the video ram as standard memory. This is a bad thing 'cause it means less ram for video purposes.

    My PC has 16 gigs standard ram for programs and 8 gigs video ram. That's 24 gigs total. The PS4 only has 8. Yours must have 20.
  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    6 years ago

    @Psychotps  I don't think in terms of total RAM, at least not with respect to computers, since the two are completely separate.  While the GPU can technically borrow from main memory, it won't unless it's already using all its VRAM, and of course the CPU can't borrow from VRAM no matter the circumstances.  It would be interesting to know how console memory is set up; I'm sure google can find me a diagram of what passes for a mainboard in a console.

    And of course VRAM is much faster than normal RAM.  My laptop's memory runs at 2133 MHz (really 2x1066, of course, since it's DDR), while the graphics card's VRAM runs at 5080 MHz.  A proper new GPU's GDDR6 runs at 14 GHz, but then my laptop's GPU isn't really a proper card.  Its PCIe lane width is also only x8.  Still, it somehow manages to run TS3 and occasionally TS4 on ultra, so I'm not complaining.

  • Psychotps's avatar
    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @puzzlezaddict That's all true. But with your video adapter having only 4 gigs, I can bet there's rarely a time that it DOESN'T borrow from regular memory. Especially with your game set on ultra as you said. The vanilla textures alone will kick it over that. Mods will make it more so.

    I mean, it's good for a laptop, but it's a personal pet-peeve for me. I don't use them because desktops will always be more powerful. A laptop's only benefit is that you can pick it up and take it with you.

    I did search for some information on PS4 memory and I couldn't find ANYTHING saying how much standard memory it had... only video memory. I might be wrong but if it doesn't have standard ram, it MUST be dual-purposing the video ram as standard ram... which isn't a bad idea actually. It would make the programs much faster but reduce the overall memory capacity.