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@gooochyeee Some women get breast implants after breast cancer surgery. Also, the male rig with female frame doesn't look the same as the female rig with female frame, and male and female sims have different body language, so, depending on what type of sim one wants to create, it's not always the best option to go with the other rig and pick the preferred frame instead. Especially since the pronoun settings are only available when the game is installed in English, none of the other languages have been given the pronoun settings yet (which, btw, causes problems on its own, as in not being able to see or change a sim's name in CAS if they have a customised pronoun in a non-English game, as seen with Jay Robles from Growing Together, couldn't find a bug report on it though).
Btw, here's a thread on gender limitations in TS4 (it sprung out of the new pronoun settings, but is about gender in general).
Here are some examples of clothes where I'm quite sure top surgery scars will show (the last three are meshed for the male rig, so they look a little wonky, especially the side-profile, but they're still available, so I added them as examples anyway). I'm sure there are more, I just quickly scrolled through everything in CAS to find some examples.
I also want to add that breast implants also would give scars, so there are many reasons why these scars should be available for female sims too.
- gooochyeee3 years agoSeasoned Ace@SqueamishNerd Also the simtimates collection kit (if you take off the tag) with a open shirt (not too open) trousers combo
- Willonne3 years agoRising Traveler@SqueamishNerd I really appreciate your time in posting these. They need to give us those scars by just enabling the tag. That is a simple update that does not require much from EA.
- 3 years ago@Willonne I totally agree with you, and I hope the change is made. And although I applaud and appreciate the efforts of the people suggesting the maleframe/female pronoun workaround, I want to respectfully say that transitioning men and transitioning women are not the same, and that breast cancer survivors are definitely not the same as trans men or trans women. I can totally understand that having to use a work around wrecks the immersion; it would for me, too. Furthermore, female frames should be getting the same attention to detail as male frames, not just for immersion, but because it's the right thing to do.
- Willonne3 years agoRising Traveler
I really appreciate your comment and thoughtful stand on this issue. Thank you!