comparing the sims 4 to sims 3 in content the sims 4 looks almost barren which is why i dont really like the sims 4 as much. it lacks depth and i feel other than san myshonu , delsol valley and sulani (sorry if i butchered the names XD) look great and detailed. but when ever i play the sims 3 i always feel overwhelmed by the amount of stuff i can do! i just wanna know other people opinions on this

You’re not alone. I waited 4 years to speak up. 5 years in, I’m not holding back. There’s only so much patience one can have. It’s frustrating to see each pack deteriorate in terms of what gameplay they add. I’ve played every version and I used to come to the forums to see what I’m missing, and come away with so many new things to try that were a complete surprise to me. That doesn’t happen with The Sims 4.

It’s because the sims 3 has more stuff. Bigger expansions and more replay value. So much of sims 4 is a one and done experience. I.e StrangerVille and Jungle Adventures.It’s subjective though, on this forum section you are going to have a lot of people disagree and say the sims 3 is ugly and lags. (Which it doesn’t for me and many others) Sims 3 needs mods to help it run, sims 4 needs mods to make it fun

Its not just you for sure. Sims 3 felt like an adventure to me. There was always something new to do and something new to discover. I still go back and play my Sims 3 and typically find some little thing that I never found before (or just don't remember having found) Sims 4 has some wonderful features, but as far as pure, unadulterated content, Sims 3 always felt like a bigger world from base game on up through the expansions and stuff.That said, I'm excited for university and hopeful that it adds in some of the great content I long for.

@MidnightAura is right in saying Sims3 needed mods so we could play it. But Sims4 needs mods to make it more fun to play. I'm using 93 mods right now and most of those are tuning mods that nuke all the irritating autonomous stuff. Some mods are bug fixes. Some are Quality of Life mods that add some weight to relationships, and consequences for bad decision making. If not for mods, Sims4 wouldn't be taking up space on my PC. A large section of the fan base feels the same as you do @adamzaid. Sims4 is pretty darn shallow and empty when played without mods of some kind.

Some of us use no mods in Sims 3 or 4 - I fixed my Sims 3's routing so it does not lag and my sims 4 did not need any mods to make it fun - I have plenty to do and fun in Sims 4 as well as in Sims 3. It simply takes playing both games to make them enjoyable - not mods. My trick is play every household differently. Half the time people will play the households alike or few households and that in itself can get boring quickly. But if you like playing with mods and CC there is nothing wrong with that either. My Sims 2 has a good deal of CC - Maxis match mostly to get the colors and matching build and buy things. Sims 2's only issue to me is the lack of color choice - but it is a finished game and I never have to worry about the CC breaking in a finished. That is my main object to CC and mods in Sims 4 - it's an unfinished game and I hate the hoop jumping of constantly having to replace stuff - never mind it can sometimes mess up your saves. So I have a rule never to use CC and mods in unfinished games.Owning everything in sims 3 made mods unnecessary especially after I fixed my own game. I didn't see a need for CC I can color my own stuff so CC was pointless for me - but sure it might be necessary for others and that is okay too. There's a lot of real talented players out there so I can see why a lot of people use mods and CC.

am i the only that thinks the sims 4 looks empty?

Cinebar
6 years ago
Yeah, I almost laugh hystericaly when I see a $40 price tag on TS4's EPs. O.K. I actually do, just like an evil Sim.
Lonewolf1044
Seasoned Spectator
6 years ago
"simgirl1010;c-17302471" wrote:
"Camkat;c-17302413" wrote:
"simgirl1010;c-17301175" wrote:
"MidnightAura;c-17301154" wrote:
"Writin_Reg;c-17300999" wrote:
"kaylin205;c-17300977" wrote:
Also for double the price, they aren't done milking the cow just yet.

Well they have a long way to go to catch up to Sims 3 - I own everything made by Maxis for sims 3 and It comes to 3600 dollars and that is just things I bought - not including content I was gifted. Now was that milking too - and I don't regret anything and love all the choices I have. I enjoy using all my Sims 3 content, and Sims 2 content and Sims 4 content. Keep in mind no body but each of us makes us buy anything. So a bit hard to call it milking when we are the one who decides to buy the content. Maxis doesn't even go out of their way to show us how much we should want this stuff or need it - so really we decide for ourselves we have to have it. That's not milking where I come from. No one is forced to buy anything. Be glad they make it - it is our choice to buy it or not.

Oh and not double the price Sims 3 eps were 39.99 and sps were 19.99 when the game was being developed and we almost never had all the sales Sims 4 gets. Even one of the sps in Sims 3 was 30.00 when it came out. I bought them all because I liked them - it was my choice - and I never considered that milking either.

The store isn’t essential. And lots of people got items for free through watching ads and registering expansions. I’ve never paid for store content and I have a lot.

Try playing sims 4 without any stuff packs. It will be boring. Sims 3 is playable without store content.

Sims 2 expansions for me were £19.99
Sims 3 expansions are 29.99 (even now)
Stuff packs are 12.99 when I bought mine.

Sims 4 expansions are 34.99
Stuff packs are cheaper but game packs are 17.99. I have all dlc for all three sims games and just missing two or three packs from sims 4 and it’s is the most expensive to date if you own it all, that’s a fact.

For you maybe. I've had plenty of enjoyable simming sessions where I didn't interact with any stuff pack content.

Me too, but I've bought content to flesh it out more so not every session is base game and I'm sure not all of your sessions are either. ;)
I bought packs rather quickly too (I was late to the TS4 party because I was still playing TS2 and TS3) because the base game does get boring quickly. It lacks a lot. (Which is why I was late to the party because I didn't want to play without toddlers, a base game feature of both TS2 and TS3).

TS4 you definitely get a lot less for your money than ever before and people have a right to be upset.

I agree that people have the right to be upset if they think they're getting a lot less for their money. Some of those simmers have stopped buying but others continue to buy and continue to complain. And they use a variety of excuses to explain their behavior. They have to complete the series. There are no other comparable simulation games available. If you're unhappy with S4 just say no. At the least wait a sufficient amount of time after release to be fully informed of what content is available.

Yes, people do complain but some of those complainers are not paying what EA/Maxis wants them to pay and I have no problems with complaining as I never pay what the developer wants me to pay as I pay what I feel it is worth. Complaining is an form of feedback even if EA/Maxis pays no mind. I also do it to other developers as well even if I like it. Sometimes the wait is long, I am an very patient person and have an lot of games on standby.
ChadSims2
Seasoned Novice
6 years ago
"MissyHissy;c-17301043" wrote:
Do you know, I'm totally baffled by the obsession with cars lately? I can't help wonder if it's only because you haven't got them that you want them...
I'm actually quite pleased cars aren't in the game - I'm seeing the sims walking around town, not taking a car to drive 30 yards down the road and get out again.

Where I live, I'm in the centre of town so we walk everywhere. We don't take a car, or a cab just to go to the shops. We walk it and that's why I prefer not having cars in Sims 4. The sims in 3 just got obsessive about them and used them, or cabs, to go everywhere. It feels more realistic, for me, to have sims walking around the neighbourhood.

Your Sims are not walking anywhere they poof into a loading screen.
Cinebar
6 years ago
"MissyHissy;c-17302498" wrote:
"Camkat;c-17302487" wrote:

I agree with you here. I don't understand the continue to buy but complain bit. I especially don't understand the need to collect them all either (if you don't actually like it. People collect all kinds of things but because they actually like those things.)

I've never understood that either! I buy the packs I like the sound of. I enjoy Sims 4 but I don't need to complete the collection. Complaining but continuing to buy and then make excuses doesn't make sense.

I might agree with you here. But I'm not one of them. I haven't bought anymore since 2017 not even if it went on sale. My tastes are very particular and it's hard to make me buy something I see as subpar even if on sale. But what I see just as passive agreesive are the statements like: I didn't buy the EP for gameplay but the CAS....$40 for a few more pieces of clothes (which males are rarely included in those pieces of clothing). OK, I guess, that's worth it to them. Ignore the bugs, ignore the subpar gameplay, ignore the tiny towns and give Maxis $40 for a few more clothes. I sort of can't understand that logic, either, all the while saying TS4 is the best game ever but have mods installed so they can stand it. I sort of don't believe that when I know why some buy all the packs just for some more pieces of clothing and keep this thing going telling me it's the best game ever, knowing they use mods or they wouldn't be able to stand it As Is.

On your other comments about cars, that's great you live somewhere where all your shops and entertainment are located on a few close knit streets and you can just walk there. But it's not reality to many of us. The closest major department store or grocery store for me is at least fifteen miles or more. I need a car. Public Transit doesn't run out in rural country. I can't just click M and get a map popup and teleport there.
2fab4uboo
6 years ago
I feel like it's lacking A LOT. I don't know something about this game just feels empty and uninspired. I DO compare it TS2, didn't play TS3 so I can't compare it to that game, but I don't feel like there's anything wrong with comparing TS4 to the other three iterations, it's common sense to do so. You should want more out of each new game than what was in the previous games, if you get a new phone, car, ect you of course you're going to compare it against previous models, so why wouldn't you do the same with the sims games? One of the thing I really miss is being able to customize things. We can't customize our neighborhoods our apartments and we won't be able to customize our dorm rooms, I'm not talking about redecorating. I also hate the recycling of animations. The sims have less interactions in this games than previous iterations especially the children and the babies are a huge step back. There's not much that makes TS4 feel unique imo everything about it feels half done. TS4 is just O.K. when it could have been outstanding.
MissyHissy
6 years ago
"ChadSims2;c-17303320" wrote:

Your Sims are not walking anywhere they poof into a loading screen.

The ones walking around the neighbourhood, I'm talking about. It feels a lot more real than if they're driving past. That's why I prefer it but that's just my opinion. :)

"Cinebar;c-17303752" wrote:

On your other comments about cars, that's great you live somewhere where all your shops and entertainment are located on a few close knit streets and you can just walk there. But it's not reality to many of us. The closest major department store or grocery store for me is at least fifteen miles or more. I need a car. Public Transit doesn't run out in rural country. I can't just click M and get a map popup and teleport there.

I never said it was. I simply mentioned why it felt more real for me, personally and why I prefer not having my sims hop in a car to drive 30 yards down the road, or get the school bus for the school that's across the road. That's all I was saying. :)
astridentanja
6 years ago
"ChadSims2;c-17303320" wrote:
"MissyHissy;c-17301043" wrote:
Do you know, I'm totally baffled by the obsession with cars lately? I can't help wonder if it's only because you haven't got them that you want them...
I'm actually quite pleased cars aren't in the game - I'm seeing the sims walking around town, not taking a car to drive 30 yards down the road and get out again.

Where I live, I'm in the centre of town so we walk everywhere. We don't take a car, or a cab just to go to the shops. We walk it and that's why I prefer not having cars in Sims 4. The sims in 3 just got obsessive about them and used them, or cabs, to go everywhere. It feels more realistic, for me, to have sims walking around the neighbourhood.

Your Sims are not walking anywhere they poof into a loading screen.

Plus you can make a sim in TS3 walk anywhere you want to. When I played a homeless sim, of course he automatically wanted to take a cab everytime I sent him somewhere. It's a game though, I just ordered him to walk. So, he walked.
fruitsbasket100
New Vanguard
6 years ago
I personally don't see a need for cars in this particular sims game. Our sims teleport places via loading screen so it seems pointless to have cars. I know some people want them for decoration or an animation of them getting in to the car before it loads but I just don't see the point. Making that animation could be time taken away from making/fixing something else that might make this game more playable. If they want to bring back semi open worlds or fully open worlds in the future though i'm all for it. If not, I say wait for the next one.

Edited for phrasing.
JohnnySimsyt
6 years ago
I would love to play Sims 3 but it runs like a garbage disposal on 64 bit Windows whereas Sims 4 runs smooth as silk.

Also, quality over quantity. I like that I can redo a sim's look in just a few minutes on TS4 whereas it might take me 10 minutes just to find a proper shirt in TS3 since there's so many choices.
astridentanja
6 years ago
"Euckfa;c-17304372" wrote:
I would love to play Sims 3 but it runs like a garbage disposal on 64 bit Windows whereas Sims 4 runs smooth as silk.

Also, quality over quantity. I like that I can redo a sim's look in just a few minutes on TS4 whereas it might take me 10 minutes just to find a proper shirt in TS3 since there's so many choices.

I love to play Sims 3 and it runs smooth as silk. And the reason it takes me ten minutes to redo a sim’s look is CASt. Quality over quantity indeed, love it I can give my sims self designed clothes that way. Not having much to choose from doesn’t define quality.