Emma is currently a YA in university. So, she has quite a bit of time to sort out the love-partnership-family aspects of her life.Valentine's Day (yes, rejigged and renamed holidays) rolls around. Emma decides to participate. Unable to get her brand new acquaintance Cameron Fletcher to stick around for longer than a single ping pong game, Emma looks and sees another fellow student she introduced herself to earlier in the semester.Jun Aoki has the random NPCs usual poor taste in fashion. But his face isn't too bad (if you ignore the glasses he put on with his cold weather outfit, they were horrible ones). Checking he's single, Emma asks him for a drink in the spirit of the holiday.The go on a date to Peppers Pub. It's going alright until Emma learns in one foul swoop that Jun is mean, evil and a perfectionist! :o Now, Emma has time. And occasionally a girl has to kiss a whole bunch of frogs before she finds a prince. I'm about to quietly let Jun slip into the background, "thanks but no thanks", you know? However, I'm wondering if anyone thinks I should give him a chance? Are the mean and evil traits really that bad? {side note, Emma is a CAS story creation so she has the dastardly bonus trait herself}

I can handle the evil trait, but never the mean trait.

I often have evil sims looking to do very evil things indeed and i love that for thembut I've yet to ever really make mean sim :sweat_smile: not sure whyperhaps its just the brain image thing because evil makes me think of fancy villain people and mean just makes me think of someone who is mean a lot for no real reasons :sweat_smile: I think evil perfectionist wouldn't be too bad to date i mean they could still be very caring of their close ones and just be evil to some other sims(maybe theyre looking to turn whole simearth into fashion disaster who knows)but mean... yeah that does bother methough taking in account dastardly trait maybe they can be dastardly together

Usually, once I see the Mean, Evil, or Kleptomaniac traits, that sim gets marked for death. Once in awhile, if they have something I can make use of (good looks, otherwise good traits, or they do something that endears me to them on screen), I'll lift them into played households, get them the rewards points, then use the Re-Traiting Potion to strip the bad off 'em.

I think you often get a bad modlet from your Sim, I think it is something like "Feeling bad due to bad encounter with a Sim nearby"

Evil power couple?Or just an ill-chosen college relationship that Emma learns some lessons from and moves on?My Billie Jang has the Kleptomaniac trait- got it when she aged up into a teen. It has turned out to be a fun and interesting, sometimes annoying, but a great personality flaw for a character who is otherwise a golden child with no real problems. She is also a Goofball with a high Comedy interest and skill (taking after her comedian dad) so it works well as a pranky funny teen personality who sometimes goes too far and makes her loved ones angry.I think negative traits are a great solution to the "all my sims are the same" or "my sims all get along too well with everyone" problems.

Bad traits or just bad attitude??

moppy14w
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
UPDATE: Jun asked Emma on a second date (phone call) and she said Yes. They had a drink at the Glimmerbrook pub this time and seemed to have a good time. So, Emma followed up with another date. Near graduation, Emma invited Jun to stay the night. >:)

Now she’s unexpectedly eating for two. (Thanks Wonderful Whims mod!). :o
LaBlue0314
Rising Scout
4 years ago
@NRowe, you might want to remove the name of the mod. It's a no-no here.
moppy14w
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Second UPDATE: After a bit of chasing on Emma’s part and reluctance on Jun’s part {and talking several failed attempts to invite over or meet up somewhere and get them interacting} Jun finally accepts that he is going to be a father.

Eventually I had Jun accept Emma’s requests to be her boyfriend and to join the active household. They promptly moved out to a bigger house, because Emma’s one bedroom starter wasn’t really going to cut it with a nooboo.

So there you go @EA_Mari. Jun got his second chance. Thanks for the shout out in the Friday highlights.
If my mod is really taboo, I will remove the mention. It is the toned down/safe for work or streaming one though.
MstyBL95
4 years ago
"LaBlue0314;c-17987253" wrote:
@NRowe, you might want to remove the name of the mod. It's a no-no here.

@NRowe - you don't have to change the name. That mod is named similarly to a more salacious mod, but they're not the same.
JanuaryGarnet08
New Spectator
4 years ago
Omg! I love mean sims! I love playing them and watching the other sims recoil in horror as my mean sim cuts loose in a tirade of forbidden words. Brings a smile to my face and a giggle to my lips every time. I guess because I spent so much of my life quietly and politely internalizing everyone else’s crap I just love vicariously being on the giving end of things for once.
Metior_Ice
Hero
4 years ago
This reminds me of my Damion Morbius.

He has the Mean, Evil, and Loner Traits.

His hidden trait is Dastardly.

And, his Character Values are Responsible, Good Manners, Controlled Emotions, Argumentative, and Insensitive

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51544686776_0dcbf14a9e_b.jpg

And this is something he did during my Rotation Playing City Living. The poor guy throws rose petals with no one around. He's a vampire with an Aura that keeps people away.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51489243179_a5a6cd4c92_h.jpg

I haven't uploaded this version of him to the Gallery yet.
moppy14w
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago

"Sindocat;c-17987515" wrote:

Do update us on how these traits play out, since you have made your move.

So far Jun has been absolutely ‘normal’. If he got upset he hit the giant teddy a couple of times. :p
He does laugh maniacally on occasion but that’s kind of amusing.
Now that their little Zoe is a toddler, we’ll see if anything changes. I was worried about the dollhouse at one point but it said he was just going to play.
SheriSim
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
I have an evil, mean boss sim that is now married ( to a jealous sim ). He never has seemed to do anything that causes problems between them. He does have a brother with the good and sad trait though and the evil, mean traits do tend to bother his good brother. I haven’t played the family since sentiments were added though.
Hoverael
4 years ago
I have an evil sim and she really enjoys getting other sims riled up and takes so much joy out of their angry behaviour. I love playing her, she is both extremely attractive but a complete nightmare at the same time, she loves being that way.

i have a kleptomaniac, she steals from the willow creek archives all the time (i make sure to go into build and replace what she stole). She she steals from neighbours if they invite her over, she steals from work. she can't help herself. She loves the thrill of the steal.

i have mean sims as well, they love arguing with other sims, winning their arguments and generally making a fool of themselves.

Both evil and mean sims when left autonomously will act on their evil or mean behaviours, so any efforts to build a relationship could be sabotaged quickly, especially if your sim happens to dislike mischief interactions and sims with either evil or mean like to use them.
MoonlightGraham
New Scout
4 years ago
Just last night, I was creating some new Sims to add some spice to San Myshuno (pun intended). I rolled for one dude's Traits, and he came up Evil, Loner, and Childish. At first I was going to try again, but I'm curious about what he will do. I decided he should Aspire to be Chief of Mischief, so now he's Dastardly, too.

His name is Garrett Lloyd. His wife, Tia, is a sweetheart: Cheerful, Family Oriented, and Adventurous. Their teen son, Nick, is an Active Geek. Garrett seems to have a fairly explosive cocktail of Traits, doesn't he? I hope he doesn't wreak too much havoc on his delightful family. I'd prefer him to show his true colors outside the home.

If there was a doll house in their home, would Garrett break it or play with it? *ponders this*