Can't find Sim in manage households

"Simpkin;c-15738836" wrote:
A while ago. Could have been some time last year. I moved my sims' kids out of the house and one of them got culled. I obviously moved them into a house but still it happened.

IIRC that was fixed quite a while ago. If it happens again, let @SimGuruNick etc. know.

I have similar problem altough I can not find my Sim's daughter on household management and on phone. Also I can't call her over because she doesn't exist in his phone. But she does exist in his genealogy. She is still child but her mother died. Now I can't move her into his household. I really can't find her anywhere. Help

"Vilena;c-16899635" wrote:
I have similar problem altough I can not find my Sim's daughter on household management and on phone. Also I can't call her over because she doesn't exist in his phone. But she does exist in his genealogy. She is still child but her mother died. Now I can't move her into his household. I really can't find her anywhere. Help

Was she living with the mother only when the mother died, with no other Teen or older in the household? If so, she has been culled from the game in everything but the image in genealogy. You have a couple of things to try:
- If you expect the mother to die if you replay, go back to an earlier save and move the daughter in with her father in advance of that.
- If the death was unexpected, go back to an earlier save, save the mother-daughter household to your library, and then you have a copy of the daughter you can move in with the father. You would need to use cheats or mods to reestablish relationships.

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> I have similar problem altough I can not find my Sim's daughter on household management and on phone. Also I can't call her over because she doesn't exist in his phone. But she does exist in his genealogy. She is still child but her mother died. Now I can't move her into his household. I really can't find her anywhere. Help
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> Was she living with the mother only when the mother died, with no other Teen or older in the household? If so, she has been culled from the game in everything but the image in genealogy. You have a couple of things to try:
> - If you expect the mother to die if you replay, go back to an earlier save and move the daughter in with her father in advance of that.
> - If the death was unexpected, go back to an earlier save, save the mother-daughter household to your library, and then you have a copy of the daughter you can move in with the father. You would need to use cheats or mods to reestablish relationships.

Thanks for the reply! So the death of the mother is the problem. She is now alone in that household but still a child. Will she appear when she gets older?

"Vilena;c-16899646" wrote:
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> I have similar problem altough I can not find my Sim's daughter on household management and on phone. Also I can't call her over because she doesn't exist in his phone. But she does exist in his genealogy. She is still child but her mother died. Now I can't move her into his household. I really can't find her anywhere. Help
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> Was she living with the mother only when the mother died, with no other Teen or older in the household? If so, she has been culled from the game in everything but the image in genealogy. You have a couple of things to try:
> - If you expect the mother to die if you replay, go back to an earlier save and move the daughter in with her father in advance of that.
> - If the death was unexpected, go back to an earlier save, save the mother-daughter household to your library, and then you have a copy of the daughter you can move in with the father. You would need to use cheats or mods to reestablish relationships.

Thanks for the reply! So the death of the mother is the problem. She is now alone in that household but still a child. Will she appear when she gets older?

The game doesn't keep children-only households after a death. It deletes that child from the game. She won't appear again unless you go back to an earlier save to find a way to keep her.

"luthienrising;c-16899648" wrote:

The game doesn't keep children-only households after a death. It deletes that child from the game. She won't appear again unless you go back to an earlier save to find a way to keep her.

If you aren't averse to using a mod, you can set MCC so solo children (after death of parent/carer etc) are 'adopted' by a family in game. Also works if they're taken away due to neglect (I was making coffee, again, and forgot to pause...). It won't bring back already lost kids but will avoid similar happening in the future.

i have a sim that started out as a baby and I removed from family instead of letting die or get taken away so the family wouldn't be sad. Then I modified that Sim to an adult with random name and they are no longer shown in the family tree. I cannot find her in Manage households. she is still available because she keeps calling the family as they are "friends". Do I just have to wait till culled? Any other way to get rid of her? I tried to "dispose of" by putting in a box but was in a group and magically got out when the group left. lol

I have never noticed culling in my game. How does it work?

Like someone said.... if you put him in a house you can at least upload him to the library/gallery, so if he does get culled you can at least re download him. You will probably lose his family though if you move him in, unless he knows his family and he can invite them over and save them too.

Culling means a sim will be deleted in order to make more data space for the game to function well. I've never experienced any living sims to be culled, maybe MCCC stopped it...I'm not sure. But I know when you get the notification that a sim's spirit is fading away, it's a warning that a ghost sim is going to be culled. This usually happened when you haven't interacted with that sim after one became a ghost. Ghosts are in hidden households, unless modded, you can't find them in the manage household.

As for OP's mysterious townie boyfriend, are you sure you look through every household? Did you look into the "Not in the world" category? Usually, the townies that game spawns can be found there. But if you enable the "fill the empty house" in the game option, or you have mods which allow homeless to move in, it's a highly chance that the mysterious boyfriend had already moved in.

As far as I know, sims will disappear from the game once culled, just like they never exist! You can't find them in the relationship category, either. Logically speaking, they can't call you or send texts since they no longer exist. If you can't find a sim in any household, and this sim still show up or contact with you, which leads to the only explanation: this sim has already be in the hidden household. There are some NPC in the hidden one such as Senior Pollination Technician #3 and CurioShop Owner. I think maybe the sim you're referring to could be somehow being in hidden household.

If you really want to play that sim, you can use cheat to add him to your household. Click ctrl+shift+c at the same time then your see a blink pop up, then type "testingcheats true", once it's done, holding shift and click the sim that you want to add, you'll see the option "add to family", click it then the sim will be in your household right away. And be careful! A sim you add will lose their NPC job like gym trainer, DJ...etc. You can also use the same way to remove a sim from family, which will make one become NPC, and the one you remove by cheat will be in the hidden household.

Another infamous culling is baby, toddler or child being whisked away. Sending alien baby back to homeland is also counted as culling. Once happening, they'll show up in a hidden household without any data. I wasn't sure about this one, but I once sent an alien female baby back, then I used MCCC to see what was really going on, it turned out that the baby was in a hidden household which I could only see it with MCCC, and MCCC informed me of that it couldn't find any data about that baby. But MCCC still stated that my sim had a daughter. and I checked the genealogy, the baby was still showing there. So I guess culling the babies, toddlers and children in this way will delete the date of the targeted sims, but the relationship will still remain.