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5 years ago

Castle, Palace, Manor or what?

If you play royals and/or high nobility houses, your sims probably reside in spacious conditions. Such big houses often hold history and traditions, and they most likely have a proper name to reflect their status. So, I'm curious to learn how you name those huge estates?

If you only play one royal family you probably have them residing a Castle. I just did some research and found that Castle would be the right name only if it is located on the countryside and has a large park. In real life many former Castles are now referred to as Palaces - simply because the surrounding village grew into a town and the old castle is no longer surrounded by open fields, as it used to be. We're of course not that realistic, but it made me think - should my Duke's big residence be named Castle, Palace, or Manor? And what's the difference between Manor and Estate, anyway?

Would be cool to learn how you name your huge house(s), and perhaps some of its backstory as well.

I don't play any royals, but I have 4 dukedoms (and some baronies), and their estates are all differently named (and probably categorized, too).

Chateau Cavalier (pictured) is the home to Duke Aquess de Cavalier and his Duchess Claudine. The rough stone building is very rustic and the exterior not so elegant. It is shaped as a bone, was built based on older stone constructions 128 years ago. I named it "Chateau" (castle) before I was aware of the differences between a castle and a palace, but as castles normally have a big park (a palace will normally have a smaller garden), and Chateau Cavalier does indeed have the biggest and most impressive formal greenery arrangement in my entire region, so I think it might just about fit the bill. Its location is rural, too, at Cavalier Cove in Brindleton Bay.

Rossie Palace is the home to Duke Jarret Ross, his wife Duchess Ribra Lynn and their 4 sons. I used to think about their home as "Rossie Castle", as it is the biggest and oldest (224 years!) of my four dukedoms' builds, but then I realized they probably have the small town pretty close, and the lot is not large enough for a major park arrangement. They have a rose garden, an apple tree garden with long traditions, and a limited patio with a pool. The location is actually outside my played region, so I'm hoping for a future pack with a suitable new world. So - I'll call it the Rossie Palace.

Von Windenburg Estate is home to Duke Merlin von Windenburg. He is an elderly man with an exciting backstory but no family. The build has a 125 years long and detailed story in my game, and the duke is currently renovating it to its former state. It is not at all a castle, but I feel the Estate name seems a bit lame for a duke, but I think I'll keep it. After all the build is not extremely big, besides this family was mostly pretty much down-to-earth. The dukes von Windenburg used to reside in an old castle that was part of today's ancient ruins, but it was completely ruined during a war long ago.

Finally, Meadows Penthouse (pictured), located at Fashion District in San Myshuno, is home to Duke Victus of Meadows, his wife Duchess Gloria and their daughter Lady Corva. This family used to reside at the Meadows, but one generation ago they moved into the top section of the new city Tower. I don't really have a name for it, but as it definitely is neither a castle, palace nor manor, I'll just refer to it as the Torini Penthouse or Meadows Penthouse. It's also rather new lacking the long history and traditions, allowing for a modern name.

My other nobility households reside in Manors and Estates, mostly. I don't really know when a home is a Manor and when it is an Estate, so maybe that should be my next research ;) Whatever, I rarely change those old names because I like that both families and buildings have a backstory.

How do you name the home of your top crest families?

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  • not really sure as english isn't my first language so i don't know what is right anyway so its mostly just vibes

    but I often use fort or castle if the building is "fortified" as in includes defence wall or such
    (well thats how my brain thinks it)

    and if it does not have that and houses royals i use palace

    and if it isn't like highest level royals building per say I would use mansion manor estate type of words

    estate only if in the countryside surrounded by some lands i feel like and i think estate can include many buildings not only one

    for examples:

    this one i usually call mansion or manor
    https://i.imgur.com/uxodLo8.png
    it does have security wall
    Spoiler
    though honestly it feels more of a security hazard lmao bad planning
    but its private house with no throne room etc.
    no one is really king or anything too like there is no ranks

    and meanwhile yes this family somewhat reigns over forgotten hollow
    I'm not quite done building rest of the hollow
    so for now it just feels more of mansion than manor

    this one (which is forever in process rip me for even starting)
    https://i.imgur.com/lKiK3Lr.png
    I'm thinking is more of a fort so I call it Fort Windenburg
    I sometimes also call it castle but thats more referring to the big building and not the whole lot
  • Loving all the grand houses :)

    A Manor House is where the local landed gentry (Lord of The Manor) would live and the estate would be the land he owned around it - it would have small holdings/farms and cottages let out to locals. He would have an estate manager who would handle this.

    A castle is as others have said for protection, a fortification.

    A palace is a grand home for royalty/dukes etc people of high birth, or for high ranking church officials such as the Archbishop of Canterbury (such as Lambeth Palace is).

  • While I don't play royalty sims and such, I have once built a castle. While it lacks the courtyard, I don't think a different description would have been more fitting.
    https://64.media.tumblr.com/52bb1e5150e7e48c065f3074f841311d/tumblr_oi1g2zJFKt1v8k7elo7_1280.jpg
    Called this one Moatmoor Castle - because of the huge moat.

    As for manors, I build many, because I love classic architecture.
    My favourite is Shallot Hall, which I built to replace the Von Haunt Estate.
    This was still a WIP picture, but the end result is just a bit more landscaped.
    https://64.media.tumblr.com/7f9f0ba174c6d5637ba60028330e5a8c/7f025f3da0c64b62-07/s1280x1920/f076061e9e1036d9da241c38dfecfe3d1ee63f0b.jpg

    I've noticed that I do have a tendency to call my larger/fancier houses "Villa", for both classic and more modern builds.
  • My sims haven't named their palace yet, but my sims are third estate/anti-royalty/nouveau riche/bourgeois/whatever. The founder of my legacy was previously in politics and he had Myshuno Meadows (the big park in San Myshuno) modified and rezoned into a residential lot where he built a baroque-inspired palace. He's very much into gold and ostentatious shows of wealth, but he's not into being unpopular or guillotined >:) so he doesn't call himself a noble or royal (at least not yet). They also don't have a coat of arms or anything, but I feel like these are things that could be potentially made overtime. But it seems like my sims have more stereotypical Asian? traditions when it comes to that kind of thing -- they're very historically inaccurate and global. :D
    https://i.imgur.com/xuhfEWo.jpg

    It doesn't have a proper name, but "Fier Palace" is what it's sometimes called. His children think of it as "our house in San Myshuno" to avoid making a fuss about it and to distinguish it from their home in Windenburg and their new home that's being built in Mt. Komorebi. They try to keep the rooms of the palace intimate and small.
    https://i.imgur.com/vasgmeL.jpg

    Private ceremonial room in their second home.
    https://i.imgur.com/pH2mxeb.jpg

    Also, manor = house. It's like the main house on an estate (which is all the land and everything). "Manor" is like "mansion" - it's a similar root. But now the words basically mean the same thing.

    I named it "Chateau" (castle) before I was aware of the differences between a castle and a palace, but as castles normally have a big park (a palace will normally have a smaller garden), and Chateau Cavalier does indeed have the biggest and most impressive formal greenery arrangement in my entire region, so I think it might just about fit the bill. Its location is rural, too, at Cavalier Cove in Brindleton Bay.

    @Simmerville I think "chateau" is fine. It's not an English word, so it's not exactly a "castle." Some chateau look like stereotypical castles and others like Versailles are called palaces in English.
  • I believe castles are fortresses, so if they have turrets and defense walls they are castles. They were usually built in the countryside as defense headquarters. Palaces are usually more lavish than castles and they were intended for everyday social activities of the kings and their courts.
    I really like how you decorated your dining rooms. :)

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