I'm tempted to buy Eco Lifestyle while it is 60% off right now. I love a lot of the CAS and build items, could use the extra world, and would like to have some of the activities (candle making, recycling, etc.) that are a part of it.The reason I still have not bought it, even though it has been out for a long time, is that I don't really want to use the eco footprint (pollution system) gameplay or the NAPs much. Maybe in one or two of my saves, but not in most of them.I've been searching around trying to find info about how easy (or hard) it is to completely turn these systems off, and whether or not they can be disabled on a save by save basis (so I can play with them if I want to but completely turn them off if I don't). But my searches have turned up conflicting answers (some from before the pack came out, so they were probably just people guessing).So, asking players who have the pack...1) Pollution - Can you completely disable the eco footprint / pollution system? Does it fully turn it off (like game would be without the pack)? Or are there aspects of it that are still happening (for example, smog) even if it is turned off? Can it be turned off in one save and turned on in another? Does it reset back to "on" if you travel or switch households?2) NAPs - Can this system be completely turned off? Basically, I have the same set of questions about NAPs as I asked about the pollution system.3) Bugs, glitches, other issues - Are there any bugs still in this pack that are really problematic?I feel like at 60% off it's worth getting it for the stuff I want to use, but because of the pollution and NAPs I am still undecided.

1. You can turn off pollution completelybut not by specific world its all worlds get eco footprint or nonedoes not turn on off when travelling its similar to the weather settings for blizzard in that you either have it or don'talso you have to get rid of trash in evergreen harbor through gameplay (or probably some cheats I am not aware of) but I prefer the trashy look so I have not changed thingseco footprint it seems way too easy for me to have all my dang worlds be greenyou have to intentionally be adding trash and stuff to make it pollutedotherwise I don't really knowI haven't really played the pack enough to tell about the bugs and I am still confused if i have NAPs active even though i turned them off because sometimes i get random eco inspector dudes visiting vlads houseoh yeah and the dang clay, hate that.kind of would not recommend this pack unless you are super into itI find I just use the trashcan everywhere pretty much :lol: but it does pair well with get to work i suppose

Someone else will probably reply after me but I have this pack so I can answer for my game. Both the Eco Footprint and the NAPs can be turned off in the settings in which case the world effects turn off as well. I play rotationally and the settings never turn back on if I don't do so manually. I've had the NAPs off for a while though I did occasionally have a few neighborhoods in Evergreen Harbor vote for NAPs they wanted that were directed by me as the player. Expect to see some clay balls on tables at restaurants and the like but that wasn't a big deal to me. I never had the Sharing As Caring one that causes community lot theft active in my game.Some people don't like the world. I definitely use it. It's kind of a very average town based on the Pacific Northwest. It's good for industrial & hipster or even urban styles. You can clean up the neighborhoods or leave them as they are. Port Promise is very gritty. I've actually played a lot with Conifer Station, kind of a gentrifying (or not if you prefer) area with townhouses and apartments. That has been a popular place for my university graduates to move to. The careers link well to college degrees and there's some interactive gameplay for the jobs in urban planning and environmental management. I actually do like that and play with that. I also like the ways in which you can change the community spaces to suit your gameplay. Grims Quarry is also a nice green neighborhood. I like the creative activities that come with the pack. You can also recycle excessive stuff in sims' inventories. I'm not into playing with grubs personally so I don't do that. I would label it a very average world and a good starter one if you like the aesthetic that some of it offers. I definitely use the CAS/BB a lot. To emphasize based on your question, if you turn the features off then they do not impact your game. I had eco-effects on for a while across the save and then turned them off and immediately noticed a difference. I might sometimes switch them back on and make my sims be more eco-conscious. When the effects are off, they are off globally for that game save. The setting works similarly to the fame setting for Get Famous.

Just a few inputs...I turned off the eco effects in game setting, but I think this only takes away the animations in world/hood view, and not (always) in each lot. Recently I visited a lot where the pollution was real bad. I like this, because the pollution on lot level will normally make sense, being in cities or hoods with a high level of commerce. Specific items (ie fireplaces) will add to the pollution "score", but it also depends on what lots you actually play. If there is a "bad" lot in the hood, but your sim frequently visit the good lot (say a park) the negative pollution will take longer to tick in - if ever.For NAPs, which I like but dislike how they were performed - with no customation per NAP (whish we could have created custom NAPs!). So while I use them for my kingdom's political system, I turn of the voting. Seems like no changes are made to current NAPs but you will still get the weekly notifications "voting is open/closed". When installing the pack NAPs will probably be assigned to some hoods, but you can easily cheat them off by shift-clicking the mailbox (must be done once per affected hood). Even if NAPs feature is restricted in your game settings, sims will keep earning "influence points" which is a sort of community currency used for voting. Unfortunately there is no way to spend those points on anything else.I like many features of the ECO pack, especially the many new ways to make a living from home, also CAS is good, and I find the BB good because it represents something different in the game. However, this is one of the packs that I could have survived without, I'm simply not enough into ECO to explore all the features.

Re: NAPs If you turn off NPC voting, then NAPs aren't really gone, but they only happen if your sim votes for them. Otherwise, you'll get notificiations about the voting window and NAPs being enacted, but if you check the NAPs on your mailbox, there won't be any. For neighborhoods where you don't have any Sims living, I don't think NAPs activate if you have NPC voting off, but I haven't tested.I do know that since I turned off NPC voting, I haven't had any mysteriously broken community lots because of issues with Caring is Sharing (namely that NPCs would swipe required community lot items) and I turned off NPC voting not long after the pack came out, so we're looking at a couple of years of play now.

"Lenny_Ogg;c-18337945" wrote: I wish we could turn them completely off.NAPS CAN be turned off.. just clicking the option if NPC can vote off.But any active naps already will not get deleted, those have to be turned off manually. But if turned off at beginning of the save, no naps will happen, at least I have never had unwanted NAP in my saves, EVER.. Game may still give a notification of this and that NAP , but its visual bug only. I personally love the world and use it much. EL community lot is my far favourite lot type. EDIT: and yeah, all eco effects, can be turned off, and the toggle do WORKEDIT2: way too many typos, still .. *sight*

Considering buying Eco Lifestyle - I have a few questions for players who have it

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CaptainMe120
2 years ago
"BoergeAarg61;c-18338470" wrote:
"SelinaKyles;c-18338253" wrote:
"GlacierSnow;c-18338248" wrote:
"BoergeAarg61;c-18338245" wrote:
No, NAPs can not be completely removed. You can allow only played sims to vote and pick some easy NAPs like having fun, cooking or gardening.

I'm getting confused. If I set it so that NPC sims can't vote, as soon as I install the pack, will I still have to pick a NAP for any neighborhood I am playing in?

No, you can start playing in the world without having to touch NAPS at all.
They CAN be turned off, literally what most of the ppl here have been saying

You wish. If you don't touch NAPs at all, the game might pick one for you. One such option might be "sharing is caring", meaning random sims might steal objects on community or residental lots. You don't want that.
NAPs can be changed at the mail box using a cheat, by the way.

I suggest NAPs like "Foodies Unite", "Fun-Loving Community", "Juiced Community", "Free Love" or "Green Gardening". Have fun. :smile:

I don’t got any of that cause I turned them off ?
GlacierSnowGhost
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Thanks for all the tips and advice! This discussion has been really helpful to me.

It sounds like as long as I turn off autonomous voting on NAPs immediately after installing the pack, it will be fine. So, I think I will probably buy the pack. Hopefully the sale lasts a few more days because I still need to update my game and mods, which I won't have time for until after Christmas.
bshag4lv
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
The Eco pack is my favorite ep. I use the left click on mailbox to bring up a menu that you can pick your own NAPs and repeal those you don't like.

My favorites are, self-sufficiency, support tech and the arts, the water and energy ones (funny when they turn off the power/water for 12 hrs.), and rock your body.
SheriSim
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"bshag4lv;c-18338608" wrote:
The Eco pack is my favorite ep. I use the left click on mailbox to bring up a menu that you can pick your own NAPs and repeal those you don't like.

My favorites are, self-sufficiency, support tech and the arts, the water and energy ones (funny when they turn off the power/water for 12 hrs.), and rock your body.

@bshag4lv I’m curious about what happens when they turn off the power for 12 hours ( I’ve never voted in those type of NAPs ). Does all of your food in the fridge spoil? And, can you still use the fridge ( if you don’t have an off the grid fridge )? Do you add ice to non off the grid fridges to keep food from spoiling like you do off the grid fridges?
wildirishbanshee
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@SheriSim57 As far as I recall, nothing much happens with that other than no power - my sims made food, or took it from the fridge no problem - but I haven't let that NAP be active more than once or twice. My sims require their computers, thank you very much!
bshag4lv
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"SheriSim57;c-18338621" wrote:
"bshag4lv;c-18338608" wrote:
The Eco pack is my favorite ep. I use the left click on mailbox to bring up a menu that you can pick your own NAPs and repeal those you don't like.

My favorites are, self-sufficiency, support tech and the arts, the water and energy ones (funny when they turn off the power/water for 12 hrs.), and rock your body.

@bshag4lv I’m curious about what happens when they turn off the power for 12 hours ( I’ve never voted in those type of NAPs ). Does all of your food in the fridge spoil? And, can you still use the fridge ( if you don’t have an off the grid fridge )? Do you add ice to non off the grid fridges to keep food from spoiling like you do off the grid fridges?

Hi Sheri! No food spoilage and the occupants of the house, unless they're a geek, don't really notice. I usually have them read, make potions, practice their magic, or just go to the park to fish, skate, swim. There are any number of things for them to do while there's no electric or water. Now geeks are another story, lol. I had one meltdown because he couldn't use his computer. I just sent him and his laptop to the park.
SheriSim
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@WildIrishBanshee & @bshag4lv
Thank you both for you answers. I can’t remember if my off the grid sim is a geek or not, I think I might have made him like books instead, as I knew he would be off the grid, he was my frog scenario sim. He has a computer that I keep in his inventory most of the time I think, so he is not always using the power he has saved up.

I do have some geek sims though, I will remember to make sure they don’t get that NAP, especially the one that is also gloomy….. lol.

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