Could Sims 4 have more neighborhoods in worlds?

"andre1906;d-990843" wrote:
SimGuruLyndsay addressed in a video from James, why the Sims 4 neighborhoods are so tiny, and its reasons are valid.

So why don't they create worlds with MORE neighborhoods?

If you investigate the Sims 4 files, every neighborhood from any world is an independent file that is loaded only when you're there.

So, the question is... couldn't Maxis create worlds with 6 or 7 or even eight neighborhoods?

Can you imagine a world with eight neighborhoods featuring forty new lots? Again... Since a neighborhood is only loaded when you're there, it wouldn't have any impact on performance.

Not even in my dreams could I ever imagine TS4 giving us a world that has that many lots.

I would be in heaven if we ever got a world with 20 lots again, instead of the standard 12, with a TON of fake buildings taking up all of the available area where we, as the players who know our own systems, could have built. The limitations Maxis places on things is ridiculous.

Why not something like, low end computer users get only the 12 basic lots available to not tax their system, but users who play on high or ultra when entering that world, has many more available lots to build on. That way everybody wins.

I don't know if they could restrict the actual number of lots per performance settings (I have never really heard of anything comparable in other games either), but they could probably do more loading screens at lower levels. For example, at lower settings you would then need a loading screen to access the "open" part of the neighborhood where the townies jaunt around. Basically, straight Sims 2 stuck to home lot on the most basic settings.

This being said, I do feel the video beat around the "constraints" bush. Too hard on performance, too much space, etc.

To be honest after all these years of the new worlds being like they are it doesnt bother me anymore.

I do wish that since they are making worlds limited in lot size they could've at least made each neighborhood open. But regardless as more is added to the game rather it be gameplay, world size, number of lots, etc it's all going to play a part on affecting the performance rate. Sims 4 has a lot more packs than other iterations of this game and they are continuing to make more for it.

"JestTru;c-17910536" wrote:
To be honest after all these years of the new worlds being like they are it doesnt bother me anymore.

I do wish that since they are making worlds limited in lot size they could've at least made each neighborhood open. But regardless as more is added to the game rather it be gameplay, world size, number of lots, etc it's all going to play a part on affecting the performance rate. Sims 4 has a lot more packs than other iterations of this game and they are continuing to make more for it.

That is why I think they made the choice to do it that way. They could do bigger worlds, but in the long term it would mean the Sims 4 as a whole would not be able to support as many packs. There is a genuine argument to be made here in favor of this, too. (Though it should be pretty obvious where the company selling the packs should fall.)

However, I feel like the narrative always put forward here is: constraints = not possible. Rather than admitting it is a choice which is the best one for such and such reasons.

"andre1906;d-990843" wrote:
SimGuruLyndsay addressed in a video from James, why the Sims 4 neighborhoods are so tiny, and its reasons are valid.

What are the reasons? I really don't see why we couldn't have gotten two or three more residential lots in Strangerville. There's definitely no shortage of space for it.

I thought so too, in theory it shouldn't matter because the sims4 just loads one neighborhood at a time anyway. It doesn't matter in which world it is. But I guess it's the total amount of worlds and lots that matter.

As far as I understand it's not possible because they want to support lower-end computers and they also want to continue the sims4 for many more years, too many large worlds could create a sims3 situation where we have to start disabling packs in order for the game to run well. Too many sims and lots could make your save file so large that you will start to have huge loading times and bad performance.

I hope it doesn't mean that worlds are going to get smaller and smaller and performance worse and worse the longer they continue this game.

I agree with @JestTru if the worlds are going to be limited in size, I would also like to see the neighborhood open. A lot of us have been asking this question for years.

"Calico45;c-17910540" wrote:
However, I feel like the narrative always put forward here is: constraints = not possible. Rather than admitting it is a choice which is the best one for such and such reasons.

Its very difficult to explain tech limits to non tech people. And what is intended as an explanation will often get 'short handed' in the mind of recipient into 'don't want to or claim they can't',

If we look, they actually have said why it's done the way it is. But the message is rarely received.

"RamblineRose;c-17910743" wrote:
I agree with @JestTru if the worlds are going to be limited in size, I would also like to see the neighborhood open. A lot of us have been asking this question for years.

From a game play view I agree. But when I start thinking about how the game would perform if all the lots in a given neighborhood were loaded in at once... then I see why it is how it is.

If we go into Willow Creek with the default houses and don't add anything into them - then that's reasonable. But the moment people start adding in a things from the many packs over the years - it starts to build up very quickly.

We would basically have hit the 'end of lifecycle' for Sims 4 roughly middle of last year if it was all opened up. The game as it stands right now would probably have been able to happen as these last few packs have been more on CAS/Build and less on gameplay, but I suspect we would not be able to get the upcoming rural farming pack, and probably not have been able to get the likes/dislikes system that prepared up for DHD despite how the gameplay of DHD is not 'deep mechanics'.

This is one of my the biggest complainments about TS4. Worlds are tiny and sometimes it is hard to fit what I want. Del Sol Valley and Britechester are so bad. The worlds look nice but this is probably one and only advantege of that. That's how DSL should looks like in my opinion:

https://i.imgur.com/6BtAu7J.png

Some space for poor sims, medium class, lower and higher superstars.

"Sthenastia;c-17910883" wrote:
This is one of my the biggest complainments about TS4. Worlds are tiny and sometimes it is hard to fit what I want. Del Sol Valley and Britechester are so bad. The worlds look nice but this is probably one and only advantege of that. That's how DSL should looks like in my opinion:

https://i.imgur.com/6BtAu7J.png

Some space for poor sims, medium class, lower and higher superstars.

Yes! This map is spot on on what it should have been. The LA inspired world in 3 was one of my favorites in that game and it's so disappointing how badly it was done in 4. Like how can you make California without a beach??