Customizable Pronouns First Look

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-18039502" wrote:

Regarding the concept of that new user interface…I’d have to agree with others and I really hope they’re going to get rid of a lot more than those huge WIP watermarks.

I absolutely despise messy UI and having to look at a pronoun display next to my sim’s name is gonna blubberize my brain. It’s such an unnecessary detail and it could have been anywhere but there. I truly hope they will take our feedback and change this, including the pronoun tooltips in live mode.

This is my feelings on it as well. I fully support and respect that they are doing what they are doing, but I don't want it constantly right there in my face. For the same reason that on games which offer the ability to customize the UI I always go with a minimalist approach. The less UI the better and this particular feature is definitely NOT something that needs to be constantly displayed.
Just like people who I know irl don't need to remind me what pronouns they prefer every single time they see me....that would be annoying to.

I'm thrilled to see this come to The Sims! I can see the problem with other languages - French has different endings for adjectives and verbs that form the past tense with être - I suppose that the default would be the masculine non-ending. Really, we have the same issue in English with some irregular verbs when used with they and them. (You can say "he/she/they did", but "he/she is" and "they are".) It could make for some amusing messages, but it's all good.

In my opinion this feature should be hidden in gender panel because in english you can have 3 options, but in polish we have technically 5 genders (3 singular + 2 plural) + a lot of conjugations.

https://www.clozemaster.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Polish-personal-pronouns-basic-forms.png
https://www.clozemaster.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Polish-personal-pronouns.png

To mimic english translation of:

Hello, I'm Bella Goth and my pronouns are she/her

it should be created:

Cześć, jestem Bella Ćwir i moje zaimki to: ona, jej, ją, niej, nią, tej, tę, tą, ta...

It doesn't have any sense. Especially I only did a couple of singular examples. Due to that non binary people use masculine end femine version of pronouns or they try to ommit any of them. For example you can replace the sentense "I was dreaming of it / marzyłem(am) o tym" for "It was my dream / to było moje marzenie".

"Sthenastia;c-18039527" wrote:
For example you can replace the sentense "I was dreaming of it / marzyłem(am) o tym" for "It was my dream / to było moje marzenie".

Both of those still have two pronouns in English ('I', 'it' and 'it', 'my'), but I don't know how many they contain in Polish.

Out of interest, how do Polish non-binary folk typically list their pronouns? Do they go with all five, or a smaller selection from which more can be inferred?

"logion;c-18039488" wrote:

"Atreya33;c-18039477" wrote:

What worries me a bit is that this will only be available in English. What does this mean for sims shared on the gallery when people play the game in different languages? What will I see when I download sims from people playing the game in English? Will I see the chosen pronouns or just get the default? Or will I see the custom ones but lack the interface to change them myself? Will English speaking simmers get sims with missing information if they download my sims? This is all really complex.

The game will probably use the default settings for other languages that are not supported. When it comes to them supporting other languages I think they will have to go with a solution that will probably not be perfect.

When it comes to how well this will be supported...well...I expect this to be supported in the same way as some other features that Maxis have implemented in the past.

You are probably right about the default settings. I'm still curious to see how it will implemented because as far as I know this is the first time since the start of the sims franchise that the game will have different possibilities for different languages.

@Sthenastia I had no idea polish was so complicated. Very interesting to read

I got a little silly in my game regarding the new pronouns. I made Alien Humanoid Robots that are Neutral Non-Genders (sort of). I made both of them the same type of look. They both can only sit when they go to the bathroom. However, neither one is completely male or female considering they aren't fully human. I also made both of them barren. I got inspired by Star Trek. :p

"Atreya33;c-18039541" wrote:

"logion;c-18039488" wrote:

"Atreya33;c-18039477" wrote:

What worries me a bit is that this will only be available in English. What does this mean for sims shared on the gallery when people play the game in different languages? What will I see when I download sims from people playing the game in English? Will I see the chosen pronouns or just get the default? Or will I see the custom ones but lack the interface to change them myself? Will English speaking simmers get sims with missing information if they download my sims? This is all really complex.

The game will probably use the default settings for other languages that are not supported. When it comes to them supporting other languages I think they will have to go with a solution that will probably not be perfect.

When it comes to how well this will be supported...well...I expect this to be supported in the same way as some other features that Maxis have implemented in the past.

You are probably right about the default settings. I'm still curious to see how it will implemented because as far as I know this is the first time since the start of the sims franchise that the game will have different possibilities for different languages.

Yeah, we will see how this will work. I hope the people who wanted this feature will be happy because I gotta be honest... I miss the old days when we were all talking about packs.

"Catzilla;c-18039095" wrote:
It looks like the pronouns will be permanently displayed to the right of the sim's name. Frex:

And you can create customized pronouns Ze/Zim/Zeirs (for example.)( I'm also thinking aliens)

https://wallpapers.com/images/high/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-meme-ahukqrnlc6a1qr29.jpg

Buy the idea
Then to work in this way, allow we save our row/s of pronouns to re-use our custom pronouns or even endose to a specific occult
At your example per example, for aliens

I'm confused and don't understand? What does that mean that the pronouns a visible next to the name ingame? Is it like when my sim met her? Has anybody a picture of it or is just a rumor? In cas for own sims, okay, sure why not, but ingame for the other non played sims? For me it doesn't makes any sense to see that ingame from other sims, since I can't speak or write directly to these sims. Then why should I see this on other sims? Any good reason?

For reference this is what it would look like in game in CAS from the concept

Standard name length, no UI open:

https://i.ibb.co/94Gg6f5/names.png

Longer name with UI open:

https://i.ibb.co/VH8Xffs/names2.png
https://i.ibb.co/WBHJ61f/names3.png

Somebody else mentioned this:

https://i.ibb.co/jv4FrqY/names4.png