Del Sol Valley was small on purpose

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3.

We’re already over 180 lots in a single save.
Hidden Lots/Vacation spots still take up room.

They ONLY started reducing the size of worlds since console came into the picture.

I have a strong feeling that things are being sacrificed for console, which is making me angry.

Still, it’s clear the budget for the world that didn’t add a lot of lots, went into the Build Buy because it’s huge.

"jackjack_k;c-16792449" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3.

We’re already over 180 lots in a single save.
Hidden Lots/Vacation spots still take up room.

They ONLY started reducing the size of worlds since console came into the picture.

I have a strong feeling that things are being sacrificed for console, which is making me angry.

Still, it’s clear the budget for the world that didn’t add a lot of lots, went into the Build Buy because it’s huge.

Console shouldn't affect pc thats not okay.

PC should NEVER have to accomdate itself for console or work around it.

Console should work itself around pc.

Me as soon as I saw the map:
https://media.giphy.com/media/1bKvE7bLe9v4L14mjy/giphy.gif

I'm becoming less and less "okay" with the 11 lots for this world. At first I was okay but said we still needed more lots in general. Now I'm kind of annoyed because when I think about it, I had several worlds in Sims 3 that I had over 100 lots in. Granted it was taxing and laggy and unstable, so I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't even expecting half that. But I felt like 25 lots, though smaller, was still enough to do some of the things you wanted to with it -knowing all the worlds in one game save are interconnected. I was hoping eventually we'd get maybe 30-40 lots max in a world. Taking the 25 and cutting it down to less than half is ridiculous.

"jackjack_k;c-16792449" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3.

We’re already over 180 lots in a single save.
Hidden Lots/Vacation spots still take up room.

They ONLY started reducing the size of worlds since console came into the picture.

I have a strong feeling that things are being sacrificed for console, which is making me angry.

Still, it’s clear the budget for the world that didn’t add a lot of lots, went into the Build Buy because it’s huge.

I never even put console into the picture up until you mentioned it. It makes total sense now why they are so small and with so little lots.

But the lot number doesn't have anything to do with world budget, it just can't, it makes no sense. Neighbourhood count would. The world has the best backdrops so far and is overall much better organised in comparison to the previous worlds. Adding more lots wasn't a budget problem.

"Jordan061102;c-16792373" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3. Why is this an issue with a closed world? Or is it a size thing? I know console users are limited in size, and it's really difficult to delete/disable a pack once you buy it.

Whatever -- this is kind of ridiculous that the game can't even handle a ton of lots with a closed system.

I suppose that kills the last hope of CAW.

The question is how will they continue to develop the game for 3 years if they can't even handle world with more than 11 lots. lol it's so ridiculous. ^^

This is exactly my thoughts. If they have 3 years planned out already, I am worried to see what those 3 years will be, if they are already limiting the crud out of our worlds. 11 lots is pretty pathetic.

There are so many valid points here, that I pray a Guru reads this thread and realizes their excuse it not okay.

I hope the lot traits aren't locked, like some of the San Myshuno ones are.

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3. Why is this an issue with a closed world? Or is it a size thing? I know console users are limited in size, and it's really difficult to delete/disable a pack once you buy it.

Whatever -- this is kind of ridiculous that the game can't even handle a ton of lots with a closed system.

I suppose that kills the last hope of CAW.

But you were also limited to that single world -- you couldn't travel or move from Sunset Valley to Sunlit Tides, for example, without a mod like NRaas Traveler (later they did add the ability to move from one world to another, but you lost all your previous relationships; you couldn't move to Isla Paradiso and call your folks in Riverview to catch up on family gossip). The worlds had to be big because they had to contain everything needed to play the game, including all the base game rabbit hole buildings. With Sims 4 you don't have to have every venue in every world. You can have a library in Willow Creek, a lounge in Oasis Springs, nightclub in Windenburg and karaoke bar in San Myshuno and still get to everything easily.

"ChelleJo;c-16792508" wrote:

"Jordan061102;c-16792373" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3. Why is this an issue with a closed world? Or is it a size thing? I know console users are limited in size, and it's really difficult to delete/disable a pack once you buy it.

Whatever -- this is kind of ridiculous that the game can't even handle a ton of lots with a closed system.

I suppose that kills the last hope of CAW.

The question is how will they continue to develop the game for 3 years if they can't even handle world with more than 11 lots. lol it's so ridiculous. ^^

This is exactly my thoughts. If they have 3 years planned out already, I am worried to see what those 3 years will be, if they are already limiting the crud out of our worlds. 11 lots is pretty pathetic.

There are so many valid points here, that I pray a Guru reads this thread and realizes their excuse it not okay.

Not only that but people seem to be overlooking the fact that this EP recycles a lot, and I mean a lot. They have re-skinned every gameplay system in previous EP's and GP's on this. Selvadorada's temple tech was put into the changing movie studio lot, fame perks is a modified vampire perks system, reputation is a character value etc. I can totally comprehend some of them but others are just.....no.

Reputation was a whole thing in TS2, it doesn't seem like it works the same way in TS4. Sims don't have actual reputation, like the one of being a cheater, or this or that. It seems more like Mass Effect's Paragon or Renegade system.

And still there's nothing for singers/musicians they seem to be completely overlooked. Where's the recording studio? Singers and musicians can't create their own albums. Is the music table for that or for streaming music?

"Jordan061102;c-16792518" wrote:

"ChelleJo;c-16792508" wrote:

"Jordan061102;c-16792373" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16792367" wrote:
You know, Sims 3's worlds generally had 60 - 120 lots. I get the feeling that the entirety of Sims 4 will have fewer lots than just one store world of Sims 3. Why is this an issue with a closed world? Or is it a size thing? I know console users are limited in size, and it's really difficult to delete/disable a pack once you buy it.

Whatever -- this is kind of ridiculous that the game can't even handle a ton of lots with a closed system.

I suppose that kills the last hope of CAW.

The question is how will they continue to develop the game for 3 years if they can't even handle world with more than 11 lots. lol it's so ridiculous. ^^

This is exactly my thoughts. If they have 3 years planned out already, I am worried to see what those 3 years will be, if they are already limiting the crud out of our worlds. 11 lots is pretty pathetic.

There are so many valid points here, that I pray a Guru reads this thread and realizes their excuse it not okay.

They are reading but I don't think they really care. Once they're at home it's not their business anymore. And they don't seem to learn cause since the beginning they know we want more lots but all they do is giving us more backdrops while amazing games like RDR2 etc can give the players amazing worlds.

I really hope not. Maybe I'm naive, but I prefer to believe they do love this game, at least almost as much as we do. I don't know if it's a lame budget or game limitations making these things that are clearly against most simmers wishes (snow depth, 11 lot worlds, etc) but I think they are only allowed to give a very lame excuse as to the reason. What they think will cause the least amount of waves as possible.

And what is one thing that has been complained about over and over? The lag and computer performance. So the default excuse for anything they do is "with that in mind". I think the Guru's are only doing as much as they can. I just wish we'd get real answers as to why this is happening instead of these cookie cutter excuses that feel fake to me.