Del Sol Valley world size is disappointing

"Jordan061102;c-16792351" wrote:

"Cynna;c-16792349" wrote:
More and more, I suspect that GF was originally intended to be a game pack. It seems as if EA has been doing some on the fly repackaging in response to community complaints.

That's my unsolicited two cents. ::shrug::

Yeah I'm sure it was supposed to be a GP.

Yep. My (wild) speculation is that, recently, they've been taking the time to consolidate material that were originally intended for SPs and GPs. When they're done with that, I hope that they continue to manufacture content that was meant to be EPs from the start.

In my opinion, of course, TS4 was much too dependent on releases of SPs and GPs. I hope that this is the beginning of an era of EPs that bring more content and complete themes. Hopefully, this means no more Seasons that are missing summer content or Pets EPs that only consist of cats and dogs.

I'm trying to believe that this will lead to an improvement in the way that content is released from now on. ::crosses fingers::

"Kniga_Sitara;c-16791701" wrote:
Map is for GP... It is what a lot people says, that Get Famous is GP no or EP...

I bet it started production as a game pack and got bumped to expansion with the team shuffle to get a expansion out before Christmas.
It seems as if @SimGuruNinja was lead on it and he's lead on game packs which explains having no game pack since Jungle Chance Cards.

"Cynna;c-16792427" wrote:

"Jordan061102;c-16792351" wrote:

"Cynna;c-16792349" wrote:
More and more, I suspect that GF was originally intended to be a game pack. It seems as if EA has been doing some on the fly repackaging in response to community complaints.

That's my unsolicited two cents. ::shrug::

Yeah I'm sure it was supposed to be a GP.

Yep. My (wild) speculation is that, recently, they've been taking the time to consolidate material that were originally intended for SPs and GPs. When they're done with that, I hope that they continue to manufacture content that was meant to be EPs from the start.

In my opinion, of course, TS4 was much too dependent on releases of SPs and GPs. I hope that this is the beginning of an era of EPs that bring more content and complete themes. Hopefully, this means no more Seasons that are missing summer content or Pets EPs that only consist of cats and dogs.

I'm trying to believe that this will lead to an improvement in the way that content is released from now on. ::crosses fingers::

Agreed.

"ChadSims2;c-16792478" wrote:

"Kniga_Sitara;c-16791701" wrote:
Map is for GP... It is what a lot people says, that Get Famous is GP no or EP...

I bet it started production as a game pack and got bumped to expansion with the team shuffle to get a expansion out before Christmas.
It seems as if @SimGuruNinja was lead on it and he's lead on game packs which explains having no game pack since Jungle Chance Cards.

And agreed.

I pre-ordered, and as soon as I saw how small the map was I am filled with regret. Ugh, the world is gorgeous, no doubt about that. But only 6 residential lots? Seriously? l can only hope gameplay will make up for the lack of world size, but I will never pre-order again.

Pardon me while I go around the corner and laugh. Not laughing at you guys but the excuses and the reasons. It's why I started the thread do we really need three more years of TS4, think on it, if it's going to milk players for less than what games got fifteen years ago, while performance can't even meet old game standards, or the size of their EPs etc., if console isn't the real reason.

sims team: "hey guys we're going to cut back all on the dlc from now on because there's so much content in ts4 wow also we'll keep it going for 3 more years and charge full price for everything because you guys are sheep and will buy anything we sell, haha"

I'm so upset by all this. I'm definitely not getting this pack unless it's FOR LESS than 50% off.

"Cynna;c-16792349" wrote:
More and more, I suspect that GF was originally intended to be a game pack. It seems as if EA has been doing some on the fly repackaging in response to community complaints.

That's my unsolicited two cents. ::shrug::

ETA: I'm all for restructuring the release of content -- if that is what GF signifies. It's a new beginning that can lead to so much more down the line. The tons of SPs and GPs weren't cutting it.

I was talking about this earlier at the forums:

- small world barely larger than selvadorada, a gamepack
- 2 'expansions' in one year, something they've never done
- extreme focus, like a gamepack
- using the system from vampires, another gamepack

it's like, they just added a few more items and hairs so they could charge DOUBLE.

"DreamaDove;c-16792529" wrote:

"Cynna;c-16792349" wrote:
More and more, I suspect that GF was originally intended to be a game pack. It seems as if EA has been doing some on the fly repackaging in response to community complaints.

That's my unsolicited two cents. ::shrug::

ETA: I'm all for restructuring the release of content -- if that is what GF signifies. It's a new beginning that can lead to so much more down the line. The tons of SPs and GPs weren't cutting it.

I was talking about this earlier at the forums:

- small world barely larger than selvadorada, a gamepack
- 2 'expansions' in one year, something they've never done
- extreme focus, like a gamepack
- using the system from vampires, another gamepack

it's like, they just added a few more items and hairs so they could charge DOUBLE.

Yes.

Due to what I've seen, I'm almost always pessimistic about TS4. Yet, for some reason, this time, I'm thinking that this can be a positive thing.

My fervent hope is that they decided to mash together what they had pending and, from now on, packs will be dedicated EPs from conception. EPs that are as full and comprehensive as what nearly two decades of this series has led the community to expect from The Sims brand.

If I'm wrong, though... ::sigh::

I truly hope that I'm correct about GF being a symptom of hasty restructuring, not a blatant attempt at shilling a longstanding fan base. Because with the copious SPs and GPs, and inadequate EPs, the shilling was already happening.

EA, please let GF be a last gasp of that un- Sim worthy marketing and release strategy that TS4 launched with. Please.

"DreamaDove;c-16792529" wrote:

"Cynna;c-16792349" wrote:
More and more, I suspect that GF was originally intended to be a game pack. It seems as if EA has been doing some on the fly repackaging in response to community complaints.

That's my unsolicited two cents. ::shrug::

ETA: I'm all for restructuring the release of content -- if that is what GF signifies. It's a new beginning that can lead to so much more down the line. The tons of SPs and GPs weren't cutting it.

I was talking about this earlier at the forums:

- small world barely larger than selvadorada, a gamepack
- 2 'expansions' in one year, something they've never done
- extreme focus, like a gamepack
- using the system from vampires, another gamepack

it's like, they just added a few more items and hairs so they could charge DOUBLE.

They have. Get to Work and Get Together released the same year.

I don't mind the focus, I quite like it and I think it fits with this pack theme. There's a lot that a Superstar/Fame pack can include.

But it is unfortunate that the number of lots is so little and the features don't seem to be completely new.

"simgirl1010;c-16792265" wrote:

"bixters;c-16792197" wrote:

"Dianesims;c-16792174" wrote:


Well I play on a MacBook, they kinda suck video games wise, so I'm concerned about performance. However other players have great gaming computers, they shouldn't be penalized either. That being said, my old white plastic MacBook could run TS3 (barely, but still) and the worlds were much bigger.

I understand that some players don't have the money to buy a more expensive computer, and I think it's great that the Sim's team accommodates for them. However, I just don't think their reasons are valid. I can see how Seasons or Cats & Dogs would be tough on an older computer, but adding in a couple more lots to a world? I don't think that would break the game. I was just trying to highlight how ridiculous their excuse is, not criticize users with lower end computers.

Why do you think their response is ridiculous? I'm also wondering why there were so few lots and if it's not a question of performance then what could it be? ?

Console. ETA: We all know they test an EP or GP with the base game only, not with everything installed and never have. So, how could a world with just the base be too much for the base and an EP to load? That reason doesn't actually hold water.