Disgusting Concepts

"orangehippogriff;c-17544259" wrote:
Gross and quirky is fun though imo. Give me trash woohoo, farting, belching, bagheads, kleptos. Gosh I don't want to my sims world to be full of smiling Pinterest moms... sorry. I like the meat wall too, I think it's funny. but hey that's me

What I always liked about the sims is the silly, immature and slapstick humor.

When I look back at the first two games those two were real risky in the humor and it was funny. :p

Are you new to the games? Dumpster diving was a thing in previuos games and sims can even rummage through trashcans. In one of the packs you can even go to a junkyard and gather scraps and furniture, and sims 2 might have had something similar but i am not sure. I would not say the series is changing since the previous games had this aspect too. Maybe the only difference is that you got a focued pack for it in ts4, but still. It seems that you can avoid the things you did not like in this pack while enjoying the other aspects, but this is just what i think as i dont have this pack to confirm.

Honestly, bugs are a delicacy in much of the world and a part of many local diets worldwide. To treat it as somehow wrong could be considered offensive to some. That aside, it is a renewable source of protein without the environmental harm that mass farming beef, pork and chicken has. It's something that has been floated within the western world for years and never gotten traction because it's viewed as beneath us in North America and western Europe. Mass farming for slaughter is actually one of the largest sources of greenhouse gasses- a lot of land is used to graze, a lot of methane is produced- if the land was used for produce that wouldn't be the case. (this being said, I still love me a steak)

Also, I grew up poor. Dumpster diving and salvaging was a part of my life until as recently as 5 years ago and it is for many people. There's been demand from many of us to allow and provide us with ways to play alternative lifestyles, economic situations and living situations and EA has done great in stepping up. We now not only have single family homes but apartments, dorms, group living/roommates, off the grid living and now a feasible and realistic way to play homeless sims. This opens so many doors to the stories we can tell.

It's funny. There's a lot to criticize about the pack, but I never thought very optional (and sometimes funny) things like the meat wall, the bugs and the dumpsters would be deal breakers for anyone lol. Is a pee-soaked bush any better?

I understand finding it gross, I mean, I would never touch an insect in real life and I don't really plan on using that particular item, but it certainly does not offend me that it's there.

And these are far from the grimmest features in the game (I've accidentally had pools filled with floating corpses, it's a sight). If anything, the pack isn't grim enough lol. It's too easy to go green.

Sims has always been grim and dark and have tongue to cheek humor since the beginning. But boy I do miss cake dancing and cage dancing. I am so glad I wasn't coddled as a young Simmer when I started in my teens with the Sims. With this iteration starting off with potty humor with talking toilets, I am glad it is venturing towards the rooted humor the franchise was built on with quirky and dark humor again.

I was talking with a coworker how games now of days are too easy and child friendly like Fortnite for example. Nice to have the Sims not catering to children and be worthy of a teen rating again.

Sims has always been about pushing the boundaries of what is politically acceptable and the norm since the beginning and what has made me love it for so many years. But yes if people only knew what really happened to the food they bought at the store with the processes it had to go through or what happens with real farming. ;)

Growing up near the beach, well there are more "disgusting" places than a dumpster people have woohooed. I remember walking down the main shopping street barefoot before and how caked on grime I got on them. Walmart floors aren't that much better either. Try shopping with white gloves at a Walmart and you'll see how dirty it really is and people buy food and clothing there all the time.

I am more grossed out by the everyday things people do like they do not wash their hands, cover their cough, spit in the streets, litter the streets with gum and other foreign objects from their mouths, pee on the side of the sidewalk, how many days people will go without showering and changing underwear, and putting their recycling in the trash can and outside the trash can.

I definitely have some negative feelings about it... the sims is the last place I want to deal with environmental issues. It's really weird altogether. People have been asking for chickens and cows and whatnot for ages... instead we get cuddly bugs??? The whole N.A.P system seems to be poking fun at certain beliefs, in a really confusing way, it makes me wonder what they were thinking when they created it. Why can you only make soy candles instead of beeswax candles, considering the fact that you have an almost otherwise useless beebox? Wouldn't that make it more useful and desirable? Why the meat wall??? Instead of creating a feature to make synthetic meat in the lab? There are some interesting features but a lot of the choices confuse me and seem almost to be like a spit in the face. "You wanted x feature? Here, we made it for you!" Except that it's all twisted and weird. Dumpster diving was a part of sims 3 and maybe earlier, useful for homeless sims and fine by me.

"faerytech;c-17549592" wrote:
I definitely have some negative feelings about it... the sims is the last place I want to deal with environmental issues. It's really weird altogether. People have been asking for chickens and cows and whatnot for ages... instead we get cuddly bugs??? The whole N.A.P system seems to be poking fun at certain beliefs, in a really confusing way, it makes me wonder what they were thinking when they created it. Why can you only make soy candles instead of beeswax candles, considering the fact that you have an almost otherwise useless beebox? Wouldn't that make it more useful and desirable? Why the meat wall??? Instead of creating a feature to make synthetic meat in the lab? There are some interesting features but a lot of the choices confuse me and seem almost to be like a spit in the face. "You wanted x feature? Here, we made it for you!" Except that it's all twisted and weird. Dumpster diving was a part of sims 3 and maybe earlier, useful for homeless sims and fine by me.

I have a feeling if people can't handle the meat wall, going to be hard to find out what happens to farm animals too. There was a show I used to watch called Dirty Jobs and went through a lot of the jobs people thought were tough to do including raising farm animals and selling parts of them. But yes the meat wall isn't even real meat, so is a tame version of actual real life farming.

Meat walls? It's innuendo

"Bluebeard45;c-17540902" wrote:
But the meat wall was just to odd for me. Massage the meat. Name the meat.

It's most definitely innuendo


Dumpster diving is a real world thing.

Dumpster woohoo?
It depends on what trash is in there...
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Wait! My favourite sim is named Trash...

"Babykittyjade;c-17542627" wrote:
And as a child even in America I remember my mom going through trash and bringing things home that looked almost new. In a short while we had so many nice second hand things!

In Australia, 'hard waste' is usually left kerbside, I know people who have the majority of their furnishings by rescuing what others would throw away.

"BlkBarbiegal;c-17542968" wrote:

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"Sharonia;c-17541092" wrote:
I'm utterly disgusted with all the dumpster interactions. I've used MCCC to make it so none of it happens autonomously in my game. I don't want to see my sims rummaging through trash. It's gross and not at all realistic to real life.

You must live in a very gentrified area. I see people rummaging through trash cans pretty much every time I leave the house.

I grew up in Los Angeles and have seen people rummage through the trash a lot. Especially on trash pick up day. A lot of them were grabbing cans and glass bottles for recycling and no telling what else. Then here in AZ on bulk trash pick up people rummage through your junk. It's fine as long as they don't make a mess....but some do..

Recycling bins are the go to for rummaging in my state. There's a 10 cent refund on many bottles, drink cans, and some cartons.


I really want the eco pack, it's gonna be part of my next bundle.

"Faraway_Son;d-977417" wrote:
Meat walls...who wants that in their house? Are the Sims turning into 'Silent Hill'? WooHoo in a dumpster...there's nothing quite like saying 'I Love You' unless you've woohooed in a dumpster. Dumpster diving is equally uncool...that's what rats do! Literally!
I'm so disappointed in this expansion...total let-down from start to finish. Bug growing and harvesting for fuel and food? Really??
It's disgusting!...and I'm a poor working class guy! But this is grim and certainly not fun!

Minus the buggy spammy NAPs this pack is my favorite next to Seasons! It opens up Off the Grid gameplay in such a fun and satisfying way! It's really added to how I play the game. All the grimy dumpster filth and bug-eating is just cricket crunch flavored icing on my trash fruit cake!

"BlkBarbiegal;c-17543275" wrote:
Oh, I think I read somewhere that some people dumpster dive behind businesses that sell electronics orout of date inventory to sell themselves.

Some larger bookstore chains (Waterstones in the UK being one of them) regularly leave bins or small skips out the back for pick up, filled with books destined for pulping or donations. They put them out before trash collection day so people can have a look and rummage and grab books they might find interesting.