Do You Care Throwback Meshes Are Recolors?

"SimmerGeorge;c-17826432" wrote:

@RavenSpit No no no, I'm not saying "You can just buy CC". I'm saying if CC creators can make the same quality content then I guess the quality of what EA is offering ain't anything that incredible since it can be replicated by people who don't work in the industry. Because we were talking about quality and I wanted to argue that EA quality items aren't of that incredible quality anyway so even if the quality over quantity arguement is used, it still isn't much to EA's favor imo.
So yeah different thing I was talking about.

Okay, I misunderstood that one then.
Still a couple of issues with that logic though:
1. Just because somebody can replicate the same quality doesn't mean it's bad quality or "not so great".
Now, as I do not use CC in Sims 4 (on console) and have no idea about how these things are actually made, I can not really judge on that BUT I know there are plenty non-professionals in other creative fields that can also do just as good stuff as some professionals, sometimes even better, I dont think the conclusion here should be "the professionals cant be that good than" but rather that some of the non-profs are just also very good.
2. I actually didnt even want to debate the quality of the Sims 4 in general, again, I was just reacting to a post saying the time it took to make the items determines the price, which is still wrong.

Well it's not really comparing "would you rather have 5 great or 20 so-so items". I'm just saying if you pay 10$ for just five items, no matter how good EA or others claim the quality is, still it's only five items which then makes you wonder quality aside are five items quantity wise worth 10$. That was just an example to show that sometimes amazing quality still doesn't show something is valued at the offered price and especially with video game items where quality is often not easily noticable I think the other factors are just as important, to me at least.

sorry I still dont really get what you are trying to say here.
You mean if something is still overpriced even for the quality it has? well...yeah, that happens alot in video games.
Never said EA doesnt overprice either btw..
Again, I wasn't debating that at all, I was all and only about the "it didnt take them long to make so it should cost less"-thing.

"SimmerGeorge;c-17826432" wrote:

"RavenSpit;c-17826340" wrote:

Nope not everyone can get CC, I know people like to forget about that, but console players cant get CC/Mods at all + even if we could it doesnt mean everybody wants to, as it would mean checking for compatability everytime a new update and/or pack comes out, cuz CC/Mods are NOT official content.
So, if you think "quality" is a like an unfair trump card so is the "I can get this as CC/Mod for free"-phrase.

@RavenSpit No no no, I'm not saying "You can just buy CC". I'm saying if CC creators can make the same quality content then I guess the quality of what EA is offering ain't anything that incredible since it can be replicated by people who don't work in the industry. Because we were talking about quality and I wanted to argue that EA quality items aren't of that incredible quality anyway so even if the quality over quantity arguement is used, it still isn't much to EA's favor imo.
So yeah different thing I was talking about.

"RavenSpit;c-17826340" wrote:


um...I don't see how that negates my point, I'd actually rather have 5 things of great quality than 20 of "so so", maybe I am just different than you in that way.

Well it's not really comparing "would you rather have 5 great or 20 so-so items". I'm just saying if you pay 10$ for just five items, no matter how good EA or others claim the quality is, still it's only five items which then makes you wonder quality aside are five items quantity wise worth 10$. That was just an example to show that sometimes amazing quality still doesn't show something is valued at the offered price and especially with video game items where quality is often not easily noticable I think the other factors are just as important, to me at least.

I mean if i download CC there are some that might not work, they all might not be same quality or same maxis style since every artist has his own style to make cc. Lastly those ccs are not translated to my language. Every EAs item and everything is translated to my own language. I don't wan't to have some things in my language and then some language in english.
I don't have to translate, i don't have to orginaze my cc folder, i don't have to delete ccs that are not as good or as same style than eas. I'm willing to pay for it.
Even tho some cc makers are so talented, it won't still be the same as ea made items.

Hey there, FYI: I moved this thread to the Game Feedback section. I also had to remove several posts because they were against the forum rules - so I'm closing this thread.

"Cinebar;c-17823856" wrote:

"Kita5399;c-17823848" wrote:
There wasn’t really an option that fit how I feel about it. I haven’t purchased this one, although I like a lot of the other clothes that were not recolors. To me I think there should have been a few more items included (especially for men) to be worth $5 as it is. I’m honestly on the fence on this one, as I’d probably only use half of it on a regular basis. The meshes that were recolored are items I rarely use as it is. I must admit I’d buy a CAS kit immediately if it was themed for toddlers, children, or men exclusively, even if recolors were included (probably ones for teens and elders too if they were done well).

If we consider at least four to six of the items are recolors or what I would call retextured (to look slightly different) on some, this lessens the new content you actually receive. If there is any. A closer look at each item would be necessary to be able to say exactly what was already produced and resold to the people for an extra $5 to get a recolor. Not hardly worth that to influence Maxis that it is ok to sell recolors for more money,... strictly my opinion of not worth it.

I don’t completely disagree with you, that’s the reason I haven’t purchased it. I guess it does come down to how much each person feels is worth $5 (or whatever it costs where you’re from), and that varies person to person.

"Netzspannung;c-17823924" wrote:

"SimmerGeorge;c-17823916" wrote:

"Netzspannung;c-17823906" wrote:

"elanorbreton;c-17823879" wrote:
So which clothes are just recolours?

None of them are if you actually care to look at the meshes. Grimcookies took pictures of the items in CAS to demonstrate, so I will just leave his tweet here.

https://twitter.com/thegrimcookies/status/1367010950033760258

@Netzspannung They look almost exactly the same. If you need to play "find the differences" with new and old sims content then there is something wrong...

I understand your point of view. Mine is just different. And it would be a waste of time to argue because neither of us will change their mind. I just left the tweet there for others who might want to view the items in question and make up their own mind.

@Netzspannung Did I say the opposite though?

When it comes to the items posted above, they fit their theme, but going with designs that stood out more might be better for this particular kit. I am no expert on 80s athletic attire, though. Are there more unique pieces they could have went with instead?

Anyway, i am the type of person who would skip a kit if it had too many items that looked to me similar enough to ones i already have, even if in the end they are not the same. Oh, and straight up recolors would be even worse since i dont care about buying those too.

If this was a much bigger pack with a bigger price tag I would care more.

It's not the first or last time that this EA team are going to grab an item or two and restyle them and put them in a new pack.

Am i concerned? yes and no.
Yes, because if it works on the small scale it can work on other bigger things in the game one day and then it becomes less about getting something new and more about how lazy one can get redecorating an item already in the game and selling it in a new pack. So watch what they do when it happens.

No, because it's a quick way to grab profits and i'm not surprised if the developers take the path of least resistance to do it, as in not wasting resources in the process to make money on.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17824626" wrote:

This is how folks just jump on the band wagon and blindly agree with everything that’s being said on social media without taking the time to look at the specifics.
When the majority says these clothes are recolors then it must be so. Let’s complain along.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 I don't think they are recolors by definition but people do call them that because of the incerdible similarity to each other. They are not only similar styles, they are the same outfit with some changes.
The problem is if you take the meshes from previous packs and make slight alterations, sorry but you are not doing much work if you're gonna charge 5$ for it.

People can go ahead and play "find the differences" with these to prove the point that they are not recolours by definition. But thing is, the clothes share so similar meshes, it makes you wonder how much work they put into them to charge 5$ per copy.

I find it hilarious that people even have to compare the clothes to find the differences, that's how similar these are.