So! With the addition of a new occult Sim, I find myself sitting there staring at CAS not wanting to be ANY of the occult options. I have my gripes about all of them honestly but here's the thing, I always tend to just make a normal sim. I find the occult Sims to be... novelty. Cool for the moment when they come out and maybe neat to have in your game here and there but I just don't go out of my way to be any type of occult Sim.Don't get me wrong I am sure there are plenty that feel opposite and enjoy them but man I just... don't wanna micromanage things that come along with them. While spellcasters can live a relatively normal life with no micromanagement, I sincerely can not play vampires.Vampires thirst is annoying to manage because the blood packets don't fill needs enough (I feel) and then if you have an introvert Sim, finding someone to bite is sometimes a challenge... and then sometimes the bite fails. The sun situation is understandable but annoying if you want to go to a festival or something. I don't know why but I just don't enjoy the Occult sims past maybe a week after their release so here's my question, what is your favorite occult and what is your most hated? Why? My favorite I suppose is Spellcasters because it has the smallest impact on lifestyleMy most hated is Vampires because they are annoying to manage.

I feel you about vampires. It's why I've never liked them all that much. I find it annoying to go out and look for suitable plasma sources. However they don't need to be social, just find a sim, compel for deep drink. Done. Witches, on the other hand, I have always loved. Nearly all my sims in 3 are witches and things will probably be similar again in 4. There are exceptions though :) but like you said, you can also just play them as normal sims or spellcasters that never level up at all. All that being said, I'm sort of itching to do an all-occult household (that is a household with one of each occult type, minus aliens). But that will be sometime after my magical school :D

"MaggieMarley;c-17245801" wrote:Most of the sims in my legacy save have been vampires. I also like playing normal sims but I find vampires so much easier to take care of (and sometimes they can be more fun to play). With the right combination of vampire perks, you can have a sim who:- Doesn’t need to sleep (dark meditation all the way!)- No bladder need- No hygiene need- No social need- No fun needSo the only need you’re left with is thirst and they won’t even die of that. My vamps usually live next to a fishing spot so that they can fish without leaving the lot. That means they have an ample supply of fish for lots of free plasma packs. I also get them an orchard of plasma fruit trees and they complete the food vampire aspiration so that others usually don’t deny their requests to drink. Honestly I don’t find the third need challenging to keep up with.The fact that they have so few needs leaves them with lots of time to make a fortune by painting and they can complete lots of aspirations to earn themselves a money tree for more $$$The vampiric speed and teleportation powers are so useful. I hate how slowly normal sims walk sometimes!And there’s a power to speed up skill gain by a lot at night. That’s very helpful. Stacked with reward traits which also speed up skill gain (such as top notch toddler, the childhood aspiration traits, the scouting aptitude trait)m you can max out skills very quickly.The burning in the sun thing is annoying but I always get my vamps level 3 sun resistance which gets rid of that issue.The ‘eternally welcome’ reward trait which enables a vampire to enter any house uninvited is a lot of fun. I’ve had more than one kleptomaniac vampire burglar.And obviously they are immortal. I like that. It means I can keep many generations of the family around.I have played with spellcasters enough yet to form a comprehensive opinion on them, but they also seem fun! I don’t know whether they will replace my beloved vampires yet but we shall see.Im glad someone loves Vampires. Maybe I will work on trying to enjoy them more but for now, they remain the bane of every game for me. Teleportation power is fun with a spellcaster sim, makes walking obsolete so I can see how that is an awesome perk.With perk's though you can get the never hungry, tired, ect as well as being a normal sim they just are a little more costly but I understand how they are useful for a vampire. I just hate the sun and thirst aspect I suppose.

I love the occults, especially vampires there is just so much to them and I do not find them hard to manage, just gotta get the hang of it and know which perks to pick (mine always have sun resistance maxed out, unless I want to play a more "traditional" vampire).Mermaids are next, I just always loved mermaids and for a sidefeature they are pretty well done imho, I enjoy evil mermaids the most, trying to drown sims and such >:) Aliens are kinda boring, they can't really do much interesting stuff but I still like having some.Plantsims...not much to them either, plus you can't be one permanently and can't change their hair...Ghosts are fun for a little while.I don't have spellcasters yet, since I am on console and got to wait till october, but I have a feeling they will become my number 1 occult.in general I just love a good mix of realism and magic/weird in the sims and the world (like buildings/venues some are normal and some are...different).

I like Spell casters and Vampires the most. I like that they have that whole extra UI skill point thing going on. Vampires become a lot easier to manage if you invest time into them and choose your skill points wisely. Mermaids and Aliens are quite boring to me compared with the above two occults because they feel rather lacking.

For me it's just preference for the stories I want to tell and am attracted too. I have started out vampires multiple times but .. well I think I want it to be much darker than it is for me to put that work into it, because those are the stories I grew up with and the only stories that I want to tell and those stories are harder to tell in this game. Maybe it's just that vampires aren't simmish to me. I can see witches as kind of goofy to normalish (trying to live in a normal world like a normal person) and still have fun with them I can play them as sims... and I guess since I'm seeing all they can do it's easier to come up with more options to tell different stories or see more scenerios as I actually engage with it. I'm engaged and it opens my eyes to seeing more possibilities. Heck I even do this with scientists... I don't make normal scientists they are mad scientists or evil or megamind types that want to take over the world.When I play vamps I can usually feed fairly easy in the beginning depending on traits... I have an aversion to trying plasma packs. I'll have blood dolls in my basement or get my blood like a classical vamp or nothing thank you very much. I think if I went further with it..actually allowed myself too I'd be more open to trying them out more. As it is though I like having them as silly adversaries and since I'm enjoying witches so much I'm tempted to try a household with a witch and a vamp. I'm guessing some nice spells/potions can work on vampires to help the fledglings I make get to a more powerful state faster... then maybe I'll enjoy them more.

Do You Even Occult Bro? (Discussion)

Joanne_Snow
Rising Traveler
6 years ago
I feel you about vampires. It's why I've never liked them all that much. I find it annoying to go out and look for suitable plasma sources. However they don't need to be social, just find a sim, compel for deep drink. Done.

Witches, on the other hand, I have always loved. Nearly all my sims in 3 are witches and things will probably be similar again in 4. There are exceptions though :) but like you said, you can also just play them as normal sims or spellcasters that never level up at all.

All that being said, I'm sort of itching to do an all-occult household (that is a household with one of each occult type, minus aliens). But that will be sometime after my magical school :D
Friea
6 years ago
"MaggieMarley;c-17245801" wrote:
Most of the sims in my legacy save have been vampires. I also like playing normal sims but I find vampires so much easier to take care of (and sometimes they can be more fun to play). With the right combination of vampire perks, you can have a sim who:

- Doesn’t need to sleep (dark meditation all the way!)
- No bladder need
- No hygiene need
- No social need
- No fun need

So the only need you’re left with is thirst and they won’t even die of that. My vamps usually live next to a fishing spot so that they can fish without leaving the lot. That means they have an ample supply of fish for lots of free plasma packs. I also get them an orchard of plasma fruit trees and they complete the food vampire aspiration so that others usually don’t deny their requests to drink. Honestly I don’t find the third need challenging to keep up with.

The fact that they have so few needs leaves them with lots of time to make a fortune by painting and they can complete lots of aspirations to earn themselves a money tree for more $$$

The vampiric speed and teleportation powers are so useful. I hate how slowly normal sims walk sometimes!

And there’s a power to speed up skill gain by a lot at night. That’s very helpful. Stacked with reward traits which also speed up skill gain (such as top notch toddler, the childhood aspiration traits, the scouting aptitude trait)m you can max out skills very quickly.

The burning in the sun thing is annoying but I always get my vamps level 3 sun resistance which gets rid of that issue.

The ‘eternally welcome’ reward trait which enables a vampire to enter any house uninvited is a lot of fun. I’ve had more than one kleptomaniac vampire burglar.

And obviously they are immortal. I like that. It means I can keep many generations of the family around.

I have played with spellcasters enough yet to form a comprehensive opinion on them, but they also seem fun! I don’t know whether they will replace my beloved vampires yet but we shall see.

Im glad someone loves Vampires. Maybe I will work on trying to enjoy them more but for now, they remain the bane of every game for me.
Teleportation power is fun with a spellcaster sim, makes walking obsolete so I can see how that is an awesome perk.
With perk's though you can get the never hungry, tired, ect as well as being a normal sim they just are a little more costly but I understand how they are useful for a vampire. I just hate the sun and thirst aspect I suppose.
ra7orrat
6 years ago
I love the occults, especially vampires there is just so much to them and I do not find them hard to manage, just gotta get the hang of it and know which perks to pick (mine always have sun resistance maxed out, unless I want to play a more "traditional" vampire).
Mermaids are next, I just always loved mermaids and for a sidefeature they are pretty well done imho, I enjoy evil mermaids the most, trying to drown sims and such >:)
Aliens are kinda boring, they can't really do much interesting stuff but I still like having some.
Plantsims...not much to them either, plus you can't be one permanently and can't change their hair...
Ghosts are fun for a little while.

I don't have spellcasters yet, since I am on console and got to wait till october, but I have a feeling they will become my number 1 occult.

in general I just love a good mix of realism and magic/weird in the sims and the world (like buildings/venues some are normal and some are...different).
Sharooonia
New Spectator
6 years ago
I like Spell casters and Vampires the most. I like that they have that whole extra UI skill point thing going on. Vampires become a lot easier to manage if you invest time into them and choose your skill points wisely.

Mermaids and Aliens are quite boring to me compared with the above two occults because they feel rather lacking.
Hermitgirl
New Spectator
6 years ago
For me it's just preference for the stories I want to tell and am attracted too. I have started out vampires multiple times but .. well I think I want it to be much darker than it is for me to put that work into it, because those are the stories I grew up with and the only stories that I want to tell and those stories are harder to tell in this game. Maybe it's just that vampires aren't simmish to me. I can see witches as kind of goofy to normalish (trying to live in a normal world like a normal person) and still have fun with them I can play them as sims... and I guess since I'm seeing all they can do it's easier to come up with more options to tell different stories or see more scenerios as I actually engage with it. I'm engaged and it opens my eyes to seeing more possibilities. Heck I even do this with scientists... I don't make normal scientists they are mad scientists or evil or megamind types that want to take over the world.

When I play vamps I can usually feed fairly easy in the beginning depending on traits... I have an aversion to trying plasma packs. I'll have blood dolls in my basement or get my blood like a classical vamp or nothing thank you very much. I think if I went further with it..actually allowed myself too I'd be more open to trying them out more. As it is though I like having them as silly adversaries and since I'm enjoying witches so much I'm tempted to try a household with a witch and a vamp. I'm guessing some nice spells/potions can work on vampires to help the fledglings I make get to a more powerful state faster... then maybe I'll enjoy them more.
SimsBarbie
New Spectator
6 years ago
I love em all except zombies but I guess they need love too? I always had 1 or 2 in my game. Vampires and aliens are my favorite occult since sims2. Vampires were harder to manage in sims 2 because they would burn in their house if there were windows! Anyway, I give occult’s normal jobs, have them raise children like anyone else, and vampires can only feed on their spouse, or make plasma salads, eat the fruit and so forth. I enjoy their slight differences from the normies. :)
Friea
6 years ago

"MaggieMarley;c-17245858" wrote:
"Friea;c-17245809" wrote:
"MaggieMarley;c-17245801" wrote:
Most of the sims in my legacy save have been vampires. I also like playing normal sims but I find vampires so much easier to take care of (and sometimes they can be more fun to play). With the right combination of vampire perks, you can have a sim who:

- Doesn’t need to sleep (dark meditation all the way!)
- No bladder need
- No hygiene need
- No social need
- No fun need

So the only need you’re left with is thirst and they won’t even die of that. My vamps usually live next to a fishing spot so that they can fish without leaving the lot. That means they have an ample supply of fish for lots of free plasma packs. I also get them an orchard of plasma fruit trees and they complete the food vampire aspiration so that others usually don’t deny their requests to drink. Honestly I don’t find the third need challenging to keep up with.

The fact that they have so few needs leaves them with lots of time to make a fortune by painting and they can complete lots of aspirations to earn themselves a money tree for more $$$

The vampiric speed and teleportation powers are so useful. I hate how slowly normal sims walk sometimes!

And there’s a power to speed up skill gain by a lot at night. That’s very helpful. Stacked with reward traits which also speed up skill gain (such as top notch toddler, the childhood aspiration traits, the scouting aptitude trait)m you can max out skills very quickly.

The burning in the sun thing is annoying but I always get my vamps level 3 sun resistance which gets rid of that issue.

The ‘eternally welcome’ reward trait which enables a vampire to enter any house uninvited is a lot of fun. I’ve had more than one kleptomaniac vampire burglar.

And obviously they are immortal. I like that. It means I can keep many generations of the family around.

I have played with spellcasters enough yet to form a comprehensive opinion on them, but they also seem fun! I don’t know whether they will replace my beloved vampires yet but we shall see.

Im glad someone loves Vampires. Maybe I will work on trying to enjoy them more but for now, they remain the bane of every game for me.
Teleportation power is fun with a spellcaster sim, makes walking obsolete so I can see how that is an awesome perk.
With perk's though you can get the never hungry, tired, ect as well as being a normal sim they just are a little more costly but I understand how they are useful for a vampire. I just hate the sun and thirst aspect I suppose.

That’s true. Somehow I never do get those perks for my normal sims, though. It kinda doesn’t feel right unless they’re occult.

I guess it does feel a bit cheap doesn't it?
Hermitgirl
New Spectator
6 years ago
"Friea;c-17245873" wrote:
"Hermitgirl;c-17245865" wrote:
For me it's just preference for the stories I want to tell and am attracted too. I have started out vampires multiple times but .. well I think I want it to be much darker than it is for me to put that work into it, because those are the stories I grew up with and the only stories that I want to tell and those stories are harder to tell in this game. Maybe it's just that vampires aren't simmish to me. I can see witches as kind of goofy to normalish (trying to live in a normal world like a normal person) and still have fun with them I can play them as sims... and I guess since I'm seeing all they can do it's easier to come up with more options to tell different stories or see more scenerios as I actually engage with it. I'm engaged and it opens my eyes to seeing more possibilities. Heck I even do this with scientists... I don't make normal scientists they are mad scientists or evil or megamind types that want to take over the world.

When I play vamps I can usually feed fairly easy in the beginning depending on traits... I have an aversion to trying plasma packs. I'll have blood dolls in my basement or get my blood like a classical vamp or nothing thank you very much. I think if I went further with it..actually allowed myself too I'd be more open to trying them out more. As it is though I like having them as silly adversaries and since I'm enjoying witches so much I'm tempted to try a household with a witch and a vamp. I'm guessing some nice spells/potions can work on vampires to help the fledglings I make get to a more powerful state faster... then maybe I'll enjoy them more.

I really like stories and I find mods help make them darker ... sort of. Have you tried any of the mods that make things more interesting?

Yes I do play now and then with enhancement mods... and yes I've gotten a little farther with vamps that way but I won't go into details why lol. The updating bugs me though so I usually end up clearing them out of my game for months at a time. I just can't find consistency doing it that way and I do like my game otherwise so at this point it's not worth the battle to me.
Friea
6 years ago
"Hermitgirl;c-17245891" wrote:
"Friea;c-17245873" wrote:
"Hermitgirl;c-17245865" wrote:
For me it's just preference for the stories I want to tell and am attracted too. I have started out vampires multiple times but .. well I think I want it to be much darker than it is for me to put that work into it, because those are the stories I grew up with and the only stories that I want to tell and those stories are harder to tell in this game. Maybe it's just that vampires aren't simmish to me. I can see witches as kind of goofy to normalish (trying to live in a normal world like a normal person) and still have fun with them I can play them as sims... and I guess since I'm seeing all they can do it's easier to come up with more options to tell different stories or see more scenerios as I actually engage with it. I'm engaged and it opens my eyes to seeing more possibilities. Heck I even do this with scientists... I don't make normal scientists they are mad scientists or evil or megamind types that want to take over the world.

When I play vamps I can usually feed fairly easy in the beginning depending on traits... I have an aversion to trying plasma packs. I'll have blood dolls in my basement or get my blood like a classical vamp or nothing thank you very much. I think if I went further with it..actually allowed myself too I'd be more open to trying them out more. As it is though I like having them as silly adversaries and since I'm enjoying witches so much I'm tempted to try a household with a witch and a vamp. I'm guessing some nice spells/potions can work on vampires to help the fledglings I make get to a more powerful state faster... then maybe I'll enjoy them more.

I really like stories and I find mods help make them darker ... sort of. Have you tried any of the mods that make things more interesting?

Yes I do play now and then with enhancement mods... and yes I've gotten a little farther with vamps that way but I won't go into details why lol. The updating bugs me though so I usually end up clearing them out of my game for months at a time. I just can't find consistency doing it that way and I do like my game otherwise so at this point it's not worth the battle to me.

~~but I won't go into details why~~

I know why ;)
Simmingal
Hero
6 years ago
Idk I like my vampire sims
don't have rom yet so idk about spellcasters
mermaids and aliens could deal with more but I never expected more tho

i just mostly have my vampires "order food" by hiring mixologists or cooks or pianist or such because i am too lazy to have them hunting and idk i just feel it shows off the wealth they have gathered in their eternal lives

i also love that i can just make them hibernate and several generations later show up like "there is food in the house? nice."