Do you think "Lifestyles" is the only traits overhaul?

Meh! Not concerned.

The Sims 4 is almost at the end of its lifespan, so they would probably wait for Sims 5.

"Simtown15;c-17714966" wrote:
The Sims 4 is almost at the end of its lifespan, so they would probably wait for Sims 5.

Is it though? I haven't seen any information of any kind that leads me to believe it's at the end of it's lifespan. They're still making packs for it.

"Sharonia;c-17714969" wrote:

"Simtown15;c-17714966" wrote:
The Sims 4 is almost at the end of its lifespan, so they would probably wait for Sims 5.

Is it though? I haven't seen any information of any kind that leads me to believe it's at the end of it's lifespan. They're still making packs for it.

Yeah, I agree. I think there's more evidence that Sims 4 isn't near its lifespan's end than anything. I bet we'll be in 2024 and the game will end making 10yrs.

idk what to think about lifestyles yet tbh but I feel like it will clash with my super evil sims and such and i will maybe end up turning it off

cause I imagine they will get positivity lifestyles and stupid stuff like that for just pretending to be good ppl in public while carrying out their evil schemes

especially cause there isn't really any negative lifestyles to gain

and i also feel like there is few that i will end up having for every single sim cause thats just me as player like indoorsy or loner sims cause im too lazy to take them outside to socialize or whatever but i dont feel like all my sims really should have same lifestyle you know

idk maybe its good maybe not
but all i really hoped for is better traits and more trait spots that i as player could control

TS4 has not been and will not be the superior installment when it comes to gameplay depth. We are so far in that a trait overhaul that isn't tied behind a paywall, I think, is out of the picture. And even so, what could they possibly do? TS4 is moodlet driven. I just don't know what could be included in an overhaul. More autonomous actions that will be cancelled out, bugged, or unused by most players?

Edit: I meant to hit yes. Read the poll wrong. Sorry.

@afternoonbaboon honey, if modders can do it, EA can.

"Karon;c-17714982" wrote:
@afternoonbaboon honey, if modders can do it, EA can.

I have no doubt they can't. I just don't think they will. We've seen in the past that we get CAS items, BB items, and something interesting to keep some of us engaged. Will this pattern change?

Maybe? I mean, if they become the most lauded thing, they may not bother with anything else. They also may decide nothing else is worth their time this late in the life cycle.

I certainly want to see the lifestyles expanded. I am not 100% how they are going to do it without DLC for DLC or making it base game. Though I suppose they can introduce the functionality every time they add more, buy if that was the plan why not have had some BG and some SE from the beginning?

No, this isn't going to do anything. All sims act the same regardless of traits so they will all just get the shallow media obsessed hipster lifestyle I suppose.

Not difficult for anything to have more impact than traits considering my evil sim is yet to do anything evil on his own other than trolling forums.. which all other sims do too.
Heck my evil sim got the reputation of being nice before any of the other seven adults in the household did. The most interaction he did was when he was wooing the pretty blonde when she walked past in underwear since I figured he'd totally be the guy who'd sleep with someone and not call back.

Sadly with the sims it's always treated like they are in love. They aren't, they just had sex.
And still I had to make the sims do that because they don't do anything on their own, just simple conversation.

Seriously, this guy never did anything in character. His other traits are gloomy and lazy.
He's constantly cleaning up stuff on his own yet gets a moodlet that he dislikes chores.. He has also only been sad once and I played this house for like 30 in game days. Any other time it just got buried under other moodlets.

I guess only the athletic sim showed some personality in constant doing push ups but he does it so often it's annoying. Took him to star wars land since he's a geek and he's doing push ups there. Being a geek did nothing over there either, I figured he'd geek out over so many things. I mean, to him meeting Kylo Ren or Rey should be far more exciting than meeting some celebrity sim.

My childish goofball did a mischief interaction once on her own in those 30 days. She and none of my sims ever had much whims related to their personality. Pretty much everything is just about objects in the house or the emotional state. In Sims 2 and 3 it was not. I mean, if they don't do a darn thing on their own at least give me whims to fulfill that match their personality.

As it is they should have just given us the five sliders of sims 1 instead of traits, those five sliders allowed for more personality.

And I don't get why traits not only did nothing at launch, they still don't do anything like 7 years and lots of expansions later. It follows the whole philosophy of abandoning every feature that's added even before it's out yet pretty much.

Creating sims and houses is fun, but actually playing sims 4 is more boring than any of the previous games because all sims still act the same after all this content added through expansions.