Do you think The Sims 4 = Failure?

No, far from disappointing, not yet at least.

i used to like it a lot, then it dwindled to 'this is okay, it's missing so much but still enjoyable' to i haven't played in over a month so i gave it a shot yesterday and it didn't even last 20 minutes.
i wouldn't call it a failure, more like a horrible car crash and now the car needs to be completely remodeled to be drive-able again.

LeGardePourpre - yeah right . Everywhere I go I get lambasted for just playing Sims - so don't give me that - but you are discounting the nearly 26,000 that signed the petition for the missing toddlers alone the first months the game was even out. Dream on.

You can't count the people playing during the trick or treat campaign as many people who have the game will play the challenges. I have even played some of the challenges myself like the Woohoo and Easter egg challenges - and believe me I am no fan of the Sims 4 - I am a huge fan of the Sims 2 and 3 - and play them all the time - but the Sims 4 falls seriously short of the Sims series. Nevertheless if it resulted in free stuff - I still played challenges other wise I would not even have the number of hours I have in this game - and it fails seriously in my book. But I still got the free stuff. Unfortunately further lack of improving the game left me unable to be motivated to buy anything else for this game - never mind engage in any more challenges until they make it right and playable for all play styles.

I don't like bias-ness or bigotry in any form and when you leave whole segments of people out of a game equation what else can you call it? The game has no fair minded fore thought in it's creation. I know that is what many people tell me that think I am nuts to even still call myself a simmer.

You can't look at how many people are playing the game at one time, compare it to the number of unhappy posts on the forums, and draw conclusions that comport with reality. Imagine concluding that, because one victim reports surviving a 10,000 ft. fall and no victims report dying in a like fall, that it's safe to jump out of an airplane at 10k ft. plus.

You have to include the players who chose not to buy Sims 4/not play it if you want to get a cleared picture of the true proportion of happy vs sad simmers.

"LeGardePourpre;14230625" wrote:

"@Darleymikey;14230610" wrote:
You can't look at how many people are playing the game at one time, compare it to the number of unhappy posts on the forums, and draw conclusions that comport with reality. Imagine concluding that, because one victim reports surviving a 10,000 ft. fall and no victims report dying in a like fall, that it's safe to jump out of an airplane at 10k ft. plus.

You have to include the players who chose not to buy Sims 4/not play it if you want to get a cleared picture of the true proportion of happy vs sad simmers.

Why not to compare the number of human on the Earth who don't play The Sims 4 ?

Only the voice of the real players count.

BAD CONSUMERS? You say what? It is our fault they scraped together the left overs to their online sims phail and presented it as Sims 4? Try bad fore thoughts in the ones designing the game. You don't blame consumers for shoddy products. Put the blame where it lies. I think having OVER 15 years experience (I pretested the Sims in November of 1999) in Sims makes me a fair judge (and TRUE Simmer whether or not you think so) on what makes for a good Sims series game - and believe me this is not it!

Toddlers is not the only issue. Other playstyles are missing as well - like world creator, lot creators and builders. How about proper teen and teen type play. Teens and kids should not be sitting around chatting 24/7 just like the adults. There is no definition of individuality we have alway seen in the Sims series games. Toddlers are just the tip of the ice berg. Toddlers is my thing - but lots of other simmers have many of the others. Plus most simmers are tired of Party Central. Already getting the second ep, have 2 gps, and what 3 or 4 sps and still not a single restaurant in the game or a movie theater, or legit book store. NOT a Sims series game for the 100th time - it is just not.

Oh and it is not any of us hate the sims - we hate what they did to the Sims with So called Sims 4. Don't forget this game did not start out as the Sims 4 - they just decided to make use of the cancelled Olympus project when we should have been getting a legit Sims 4 game meant from the start as Sims 4. Not something else.

"LeGardePourpre;14230625" wrote:
It's not because you hate TS4 now it will mean you will still hate TS4 after 10 EP.

There is a huge gap between a Long Term Failure and a Short Term Disappointment.

That's if those unhappy players are still playing it by then.

I've already given up the game. It and Origin are no longer on my PC. If I don't even want it on my computer in 2015, why would I want it on there in 2019?

"LeGardePourpre;14230685" wrote:

"SweetieKaye;14230666" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;14230625" wrote:
It's not because you hate TS4 now it will mean you will still hate TS4 after 10 EP.

There is a huge gap between a Long Term Failure and a Short Term Disappointment.

That's if those unhappy players are still playing it by then.

I've already given up the game. It and Origin are no longer on my PC. If I don't even want it on my computer in 2015, why would I want it on there in 2019?

Let's talk about it on October 25th, 2020, I will ask you this same question.

Doubt I'll still be around, but okay.

"LeGardePourpre;14230741" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;14230642" wrote:
I think having OVER 15 years experience (I pretested the Sims in November of 1999) in Sims makes me a fair judge (and TRUE Simmer) on what makes for a good Sims series game - and believe me this is not it!

Now you understand why The Sims 4 design for the kids... Maxis renew their too old simmers :p

Got no problem they made a game for 6 years old. Means I can spend extra money elsewhere. And if you want to go there, I'll say they should just tell old simmers to go away and there will be no toddlers.. Let's see how well the game does when all the real simmers up and leave this kid game..

the sims4 is a succes

I don't think it was a failure. It did (and is) making money for the company. I do think its become a huge disappointment to me though. Last thing I bought was Cool Kitchens and I doubt very seriously I'll buy anymore. EA would have to make some huge changes and good faith additions to make it worth investing any more of my money in my opinion. With current attitudes expressed by some of The Sims higher ups...I don't see those things happening any time soon. I haven't played in months to be honest. So disappointed by the way things are going I can't even express it. I just check in here from time to time to see if any changes have been made...My foolish hope I guess.

Guess its just my own personal thing, but I've become so disgusted that I don't even have the heart to play TS2 or TS3 anymore. Maybe that'll change in time.