Today I updated my mods and was debating trying out Horse Ranch. But it was already late, and I didn't want to spend hours in CAS, so I tried to think of sims in my save already, and remembered a pair of werewolf siblings chilling in Henford. The sister had helped bring new infants into the world for my GrwT save excitement. But I really hadn't done much with the family. And the kids lived with their other parent, so both sims could potentially be chosen. But I was leaning towards the brother. Well I decided to drop in and play as the sister. They’re quite something this sim. Talented, smart, successful, and attractive. A real catch even for vampires like Lilith Vatore, esp once you add the Werewolf Ally trait. Only issue, I noticed my sim suddenly craves plasma. As in "unquenchable thrist", and has moodlets about wanting to sink their fangs in the next sim they see. A bit concerning with their triplets over in a stay over. So I removed that moodlet. But it was the 2nd or 3rd of it's kind. Raw meat didn't help. What on earth is going on?Is there something like if you actually get those two occults together they get each other's traits? Is that why Lilith kept scratching herself like a dog? I thought she was just being a bit rude with old vamp sentiments. Why does my wolf want to drink blood? Her brother doesn't. (This was all distracting enough that I never made it to a ranch. 😅)

"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other.

"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other. @LSM36 no they should not automatically try because hybrids don't technically exist in TS4 - also does MCCC allow you to create hybrids nowadays or is it just that you think the bugs could be caused by it @greydonn? Haven't used the mod in ages so I'm curious :D

From my understanding, while people have been able to make hybrid children through glitches and it's VERY broken you have to really brute force it. I've had many inter-occult pairings in my occult save... like a LOT.... and their children have all been fine.

"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other. I think without mods it'll be way rarer to get a hybrid, so you should be okay. If you do get a bugged one, well....the cowplants look lovely this time of year. XD "SimTrippy;c-18293599" wrote:"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other. @LSM36 no they should not automatically try because hybrids don't technically exist in TS4 - also does MCCC allow you to create hybrids nowadays or is it just that you think the bugs could be caused by it @greydonn? Haven't used the mod in ages so I'm curious :D Yes, MCCC will let you make hybrids! It might even include a warning about bugs, lol, but I don't remember fully and I'm not sure I had the setting checked to allow them then anyhow. I know it's possible to get hybrids without mods, and those tend to be the really glitched ones. Personally, I'm inclined to say the aging glitch was an MCCC issue, but the visual glitches are an all around bug.

"LSM36;c-18293856" wrote:No bc I need someone to explain this to me right now. Pregnant Lilith just transformed into a werewolf and Caleb has had fury effect for a minute What is happening? SHE just drank a plasma packet. I need to go make sure that mod isn't in my folder I'm fairly certain I took it out without ever using it what is happening?I checked my, thankfully very organized, mods folder. I don't have that mod. And one drive has been off. Why is this happening? I even searched in the search bar. Did they want vampires and werewolves to hate each other so much that they turn into each other? What is this? It's nuts. They literally can't even fulfill their needs. Help please.

Does anyone know if werewolves and vampires dating causes weird effects?

LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:
I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.

Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other.
Joanne_Snow
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:
I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.

Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other.

@LSM36 no they should not automatically try because hybrids don't technically exist in TS4 - also does MCCC allow you to create hybrids nowadays or is it just that you think the bugs could be caused by it @greydonn? Haven't used the mod in ages so I'm curious :D
SuperNerdChick
2 years ago
From my understanding, while people have been able to make hybrid children through glitches and it's VERY broken you have to really brute force it. I've had many inter-occult pairings in my occult save... like a LOT.... and their children have all been fine.
greydonn
2 years ago
"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:
I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.

Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other.

I think without mods it'll be way rarer to get a hybrid, so you should be okay. If you do get a bugged one, well....the cowplants look lovely this time of year. XD

"SimTrippy;c-18293599" wrote:
"LSM36;c-18293593" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18293500" wrote:
I've had a lot of weirdness surrounding sims that are hybrid werewolves, so if one of your sims parents is a werewolf and the other is a vampire/spellcaster there will probably be some glitches. The ones I normally see are visual glitches, not being able to access one/either of their power lists, and hybrid werewolf teens never aging up. I do play with mccc though so it might be to blame.

Ah that's worrisome. My sim doesn't have kids with her yet, would they automatic try to be hybrids without that hybrid mod? I'm kinda hoping they just go one way or the other.

@LSM36 no they should not automatically try because hybrids don't technically exist in TS4 - also does MCCC allow you to create hybrids nowadays or is it just that you think the bugs could be caused by it @greydonn? Haven't used the mod in ages so I'm curious :D

Yes, MCCC will let you make hybrids! It might even include a warning about bugs, lol, but I don't remember fully and I'm not sure I had the setting checked to allow them then anyhow. I know it's possible to get hybrids without mods, and those tend to be the really glitched ones. Personally, I'm inclined to say the aging glitch was an MCCC issue, but the visual glitches are an all around bug.
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"LSM36;c-18293856" wrote:
No bc I need someone to explain this to me right now. Pregnant Lilith just transformed into a werewolf and Caleb has had fury effect for a minute What is happening? SHE just drank a plasma packet. I need to go make sure that mod isn't in my folder I'm fairly certain I took it out without ever using it what is happening?

I checked my, thankfully very organized, mods folder. I don't have that mod. And one drive has been off. Why is this happening? I even searched in the search bar. Did they want vampires and werewolves to hate each other so much that they turn into each other? What is this? It's nuts. They literally can't even fulfill their needs. Help please.
Kita5399
New Spectator
2 years ago
This bug report sounds similar to your issue, you may want to click “me too” and add your experience there.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/W-Non-werewolf-sims-doing-werewolf-idles/td-p/12762796
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"Kita5399;c-18293901" wrote:
This bug report sounds similar to your issue, you may want to click “me too” and add your experience there.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/W-Non-werewolf-sims-doing-werewolf-idles/td-p/12762796

Thanks I went and me too'd it and added video and pictures. I had ended up just exiting the game after Lilith transformed into a werewolf that was entirely too much for me. But I made sure to remove their moodlets like I did for my wolf sim and so far no transformations. Just the scratching. From what I saw this is new. Idk what kind of bug horse ranch brought that makes occults turn into each other, but hopefully they fix it. I'm not gonna lie that was disturbing.
Have you seen those Domino's commercials where they bring back that old mascot with the ears? It was like that but like worse.
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"Kita5399;c-18293922" wrote:
"LSM36;c-18293918" wrote:
"Kita5399;c-18293901" wrote:
This bug report sounds similar to your issue, you may want to click “me too” and add your experience there.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/W-Non-werewolf-sims-doing-werewolf-idles/td-p/12762796

Thanks I went and me too'd it and added video and pictures. I had ended up just exiting the game after Lilith transformed into a werewolf that was entirely too much for me. But I made sure to remove their moodlets like I did for my wolf sim and so far no transformations. Just the scratching. From what I saw this is new. Idk what kind of bug horse ranch brought that makes occults turn into each other, but hopefully they fix it. I'm not gonna lie that was disturbing.
Have you seen those Domino's commercials where they bring back that old mascot with the ears? It was like that but like worse.

Yikes! I guess I’ll leave my long running occult save alone for now. Hopefully this bug gets sorted out soon, and you can salvage your save.

It was going so well I'm just gonna have to make a new save. I have so many edited townies in this save. It's one of my most attractive save files. And has some of my best work for new sims. Hours in CAS. Is this gonna follow me in saves? At this point I'm making a new save and starting a scenario. I can't anymore. Caleb is fully furied up, it's like pregnancy was all that was keeping them chill. Lilith is calm now that she's further along. I can't with this anymore.
I just wanted to know what would happen.?
Kita5399
New Spectator
2 years ago
Oh no, I’m so sorry that you’ve lost so much work. Maybe you can save some of it to your library? At least maybe you can save some of the work you have put into it. I know how it feels to lose so much, it’s hard to get motivated to get back into it again. I now keep an updated copy of my save folder on a flash drive at all times, ever since losing a 19 generation legacy to corruption on TS3.
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"Kita5399;c-18293958" wrote:
Oh no, I’m so sorry that you’ve lost so much work. Maybe you can save some of it to your library? At least maybe you can save some of the work you have put into it. I know how it feels to lose so much, it’s hard to get motivated to get back into it again. I now keep an updated copy of my save folder on a flash drive at all times, ever since losing a 19 generation legacy to corruption on TS3.

They are partially uploaded I believe, but the children aren't I don't think. (The newly born ones definitely aren't. ) And all those sims have leveled up since adding them to the gallery. Because I made them for growing together. The whole point was to have a bunch of kids in my save. Well infants. And then I decided to visit this family for ranch life, so I was going to tidy up the sister's relationships and give the brother some attention. Since he was literally created to live in his sister's shadow a bit. But still have talents of his own. Now idk what to do with any of them.

I even fixed Bob and Eliza's marriage instead of just ruining it in this save. The Goths have another kid. Actually a lot of people have kids it's like there was something in the water I didn't even make most of those pregnancies. Maybe it was neighborhood stories idk.

But this was a good one. My main family has 4 generations of lore. Both spouses have parents and grandparents. And they all have backstory and love stories.

I even just found out that Vlad and Judith are a thing. Now that save is gonna have to chill on it's own until they fix this. Apparently even aliens are switching powers.

But it's like idk how to play with purely human sims, with no extra traits or nada. Bc I just realized after exiting, that the scenario I started is the plant sim one. And that's technically an occult. She's gonna have to be celibate. Or I'll end up with a world of plant sims.