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7 years ago

Does The Sims Team know how vaccines work? [Spoilers]

At some point during the StrangerVille story you have to create vaccines and vaccinate Sims to isolate the infection (?).

Well, that's not how vaccines work. I know a little bit about this because my sister is a doctor and she explained to me how vaccines work.

Vaccines are PROPHYLACTIC (i.e preventive). So far the only THERAPEUTIC vaccines in the world are the Cancer vaccines but they're being investigated. The use we have nowadays for vaccines is to teach our immune system how to fight off infections by injecting an agent that resembles a patogen (generally weakened or inactivated). Our body is able to create antibodies to fight off the agent and it's prepared in case the same patogen infects the body in the future. Vacciantion is so important the WHO has declared vaccine hesitancy one of the biggest threat to global health in 2019. It's essential we all get vaccinated and vaccinate our children.

Now, in StrangerVille it seems that what developers meant for our Sims to make wasn't a vaccine, but a ANTISERUM. A serum is naturally occuring substance in our blood made up of antibodies and tissue fluid. An antiserum is human or nonhuman blood serum with polyclonal antibodies (B-cells attack an antigen) intended to give passive immunity to various diseases, but more often than not it's used as an antitoxin or antivenom to treat envenomation (when a venenous animal injects venom to your blood through a bite).

It makes sense for the monstrous MOTHER PLANT to infect Sims through venomous/toxic spores in the air so the "cure" should be an antiserum to give passive immunity (ready-made antibodies) to Sims and fight off the disease.

We can talk all day about fantasy and supernatural elements in fiction, but the truth is that there should be a little bit of care when dealing with scientific topics. They could decide to change the rules of their universe (so vaccines function as antiserums, for some reason) but they have to explain these rules to us or the story won't be believable.

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  • Honestly I just find the fact that they used the animation of "throw drink", the mean interaction, as a vaccination. I mean the pack doesn't have those many new animations from what I've seen so why no go the extra mile to animate sims getting a shot? Doesn't actually have to be a syringe but something that resembles it.....TS3 did it in Ambitions with the doctor career. Pretty sure Get to Work also has a shot thing but the animation is when sims are lying down. It's just jarring to see sims throwing drinks as vaccines.
  • You know, it's amazing - out of all the possible elements in the pack that could potentially bother me, you've managed to hit on the one thing that would actually bother me the very least.
  • "Sigzy05;c-16977797" wrote:
    Honestly I just find the fact that they used the animation of "throw drink", the mean interaction, as a vaccination. I mean the pack doesn't have those many new animations from what I've seen so why no go the extra mile to animate sims getting a shot? Doesn't actually have to be a syringe but something that resembles it.....TS3 did it in Ambitions with the doctor career. Pretty sure Get to Work also has a shot thing but the animation is when sims are lying down. It's just jarring to see sims throwing drinks as vaccines.


    Yeah, I agree. I didn't focus on the animation aspect because I understand they did it as cost-saving measure (which is their #1 priority). I don't think it will cost anything to google what vaccines and antiserums are though. So my complain is definitely something that shouldn't have happened if they had taken 10 minutes to do some research.

    I know if I go back to past Sims games or past Sims 4 EPs, I'll probably find many instances of scientific inaccuracies but this one is particularly bad because of the dangerous anti-vaxx sentiment that's hurting our society nowadays. It's important to take science seriously and actually make people understand the importance of vaccination. This cannot be achieved if you don't know what vaccination is, what it does to our body (and what it doesn't do), and I think it's important for mass media (movies, TV shows, music, video games, books) to be careful not to spread misinformation.

    I think The Sims Team should patch StrangerVille to correct their mistake. It can't be that expensive considering it's mostly strings of text.
  • The way the vaccine is "administered" is a pet peeve for me. I have never seen a vaccine in real life thrown in the patient's face. Perhaps it bugs me because I work in the medical field. :p
  • Ya, that one surprised me. I would if preferred an actual vaccination animation but I chalked it up to them trying to be weird. It wasn’t funny or corcky to me. I also wasn’t upset about it. I gues I was just indifferent to it.
  • "Cabelle1863;c-16977818" wrote:
    The way the vaccine is "administered" is a pet peeve for me. I have never seen a vaccine in real life thrown in the patient's face. Perhaps it bugs me because I work in the medical field. :p


    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/a/a5/Apr23_doctor3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100423202552
  • When I got to that point, I saw my sim poof up a glass in her hand, I thought she was going to have the infected sim drink it. Nope, just throw it in their face! Maybe the infected one's can't hold the glass?

    I think it is the same way when you recruit 3 people. Throw that in their face too.

    Throwing it in their face doesn't really bother me, but delivering a baby with a claw machine does!

    Don't think there will be a patch either!
  • "Naus;c-16977829" wrote:
    "Cabelle1863;c-16977818" wrote:
    The way the vaccine is "administered" is a pet peeve for me. I have never seen a vaccine in real life thrown in the patient's face. Perhaps it bugs me because I work in the medical field. :p


    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/a/a5/Apr23_doctor3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100423202552


    That is what I would have preferred. They could have used the shot interaction from the doctor career. I suppose that would have entailed needing some new animations for a sim standing up to get the shot, as opposed to being on the exam table. Apparently we can't have that. *rolls eyes*
  • "Cabelle1 wrote:
    That is what I would have preferred. They could have used the shot interaction from the doctor career. I suppose that would have entailed needing some new animations for a sim standing up to get the shot, as opposed to being on the exam table. Apparently we can't have that. *rolls eyes*


    Bathroom STALLS are too difficult for them to do according to Grant, so I think expecting them to do a new animation for a single interaction in a pack is too ambitious. Haven't you noticed they reuse talking animations all the time?
  • I'm neither a doctor nor working in the medical field, but using vaccine for antiserum would bother me.

    Fortunately in german they used "Impfstoff" what literally means "the stuff you put into the patient with a syringe". It can be a cure or a vaccine, but in any case when you hear the word you think of a syringe. So what threw me off was that the sims were drinking it. Granted, we used to get oral vaccinations in school (the vaccine on sugar cubes and little me hated the sugar more than the vaccine), so it wasn't unthinkable. Still, it's not the first action that comes to mind.

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