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"Brinn;c-17778999" wrote:
I also respect those players that buy a pack only because of BB objects. Why not? Who am I to judge them? I've bought the Generations EP for the Sims 3 only for imaginary friends and BB and was a bit annoyed because of some gameplay features. Things like adults punishing children automatically. I'm totally against punishing children or yelling at them, but I had to tolerate this automatic behavior. I wish I hadn't.
The same about any occult gameplay. I like supernatural things in my game. However, sometimes I want aliens. Sometimes I want to play with vampires. But I almost never want both of them at the same time. Such things must be optional, and "don't buy the pack!" is not the proper option.
The problem isn't that people are buying a pack for BB or CAS only, that's not what people are salty about. It's that people are buying a pack for BB and CAS only that clearly revolves around occult gameplay, and THEN proceed to complain about occults ruining their game and making the devs nerf it because THEY'RE uncomfortable it without any regard to other people who bought the pack and actually WANTED that occult gameplay.
I couldn't care less if people buy a pack because they like the BB and CAS, as long as they don't complain to the devs and make them nerf the gameplay that I (and many others) actually wanted. Because then they're affecting MY gameplay and that's not okay.
"Brinn;c-17779098" wrote:
I totally agree. I think that the alien abductions in the Sims 2 are a good example of occult gameplay, the same for the vampires there. No "toggles" and no random chaos. Supernatural beings were somewhat like easter eggs, and I like it that way. If you wanted some supernatural things to happen, you made your sim do certain things like using a telescope or walking the streets of Downtown at night (to meet a vampire).
I know there are many players who prefer things to work like this. I have no idea why some people insist that being a "supernatural player" necessarily means wishing supernatural chaos to happen in your game. And they also blame anyone who thinks otherwise for buying a pack that contains at least a bit of supernatural stuff... :/
That was Sims 2 though and (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) those weren't packs fully dedicated to supernatural and occult life states, right?
The reason vampires and spellcasters have their own packs exclusively dedicated to them is so that they could be fully fleshed out. The whole point of Vampires and Realm of Magic is vampires and spellcasters respectively. But the problem is... people are buying these clearly occult dedicated packs (that they have virtually no interest in gameplay wise) and then making devs nerf the occult gameplay, leaving those of us who want the occults with something that's half-baked and watered down. They're treading on other people's games all because they couldn't skip out on a handful of BB or CAS items.
It's not about wanting supernatural chaos to happen necessarily, it's about having content we paid for nerfed nearly out of existence without any warning. I mean vampires don't even act like vampires and spellcasters only use their powers in the magic realm, so they're essentially just regular sims who have fangs or glowing eyes.
"bella_goth;c-17778535" wrote:
everybody is free to complain and give their feedback, but some people really be getting a pack for the items and complaining about the gameplay that comes in it. of course it's normal to give feedback if a feature is bad implemented or is buggy, however complaining about a feature you knew would be on the pack just cuz you wanted the purple sofa, completely ignoring the other players that did buy the pack for such features is what we're talking about here.
@MeowchaFrappe but toggles are not just only for the complainers, i was talking about choices for all the players. the game could use more toggles, like for example the one i mentioned about townies. yeah you guys are right people will keep complaining for everything. i still believe direct toggles are not a definitive solution but it's a better option than having gameplay directly nerfed.
Oh no, I totally get what you're saying and I defintely agree that toggles are better than having gameplay directly nerfed. But I only want toggles if the nerfing stops and the nerfing that already happened is reversed, otherwise I personally don't see the point. Like if the devs are still going to nerf gameplay for the complainers despite the introduction of more direct toggles, then I don't see what good it will do. But if they introduce toggles like you're talking about and are like "this is all you get. Either your use them or suck it up," then I'm all for giving them a try.
I just don't want any more of my gameplay nerfed if they don't work. That's my only concern.
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