Don't Complain if You Buy The Pack

"Pamtastic72;c-17777441" wrote:

"Genkider;c-17776986" wrote:
Agreed. Everyone knows what they are getting when they buy the pack, hopefully toggles for occults will be added in the near future.

As I said on another thread, toggles don’t appease them. We got 2 toggles with Seasons, one to shut off blizzards and thunderstorms and one to shut off temperature effects on sims. But, people still had a massive hissy about sims dying from extreme temperatures. I even pointed out to the person who was leading the charge to have weather deaths nerfed that they could shut off the effects of temperature on their sims, and the literally came back at me saying they shouldn’t have to, because their sims not feeling hot or cold wasn’t realistic. So ultimately weather deaths have been tuned virtually out of existence, along with vampire behavior, and Murphy bed deaths (which tons of people requested making a return), and vending machine deaths were basically nerfed at the outset because you have really force things in order to make them happen. IMO, the rainbows and unicorns dollhouse players are sucking the very essence of The Sims out of this game. Like the OP I too fear they will set their lot type to Haunted House, add the spooky trait and then complain that it’s “invasive”, and “OTT”, and that they should be able to live in a haunted house without it occurring all the time.

The fact that you intentionally have to set your lot type to Haunted House, is the toggle but mark my words, they will be on here by Valentine’s Day hollering for hauntings and the fear emotion to be tuned down to nothing.

"marcel21;c-17777303" wrote:
Hi :)
some people on this thread that doesn't like seeing others complaining. It's a forum for all simmer, not our personal email. one of u said maybe they should quit the game. I have a solution, how about you just avoid those threads and ignore the posts.
nobody is forcing us to go into them in the first place.

It’s not about reading threads we don’t like it’s about the fact that they spam the forums with their complaints until the devs come in through a patch and take away features in our games that WE DO LIKE and that we PAID for. It’s hard to ignore that vampires almost never ever break into homes now, or that extreme weather deaths no longer occur, or Murphy bed deaths. All of which were key features of their packs that were openly and repeatedly advertised pre-purchase.

Wow I didn't know there were complaints about weather deaths when there are toggles to turn them off right there.
If that's the case the Sims dev team shouldn't mind these complaints at all since the solution is right in the game, and I believe there's even a cheat code which disables death altogether (which ultimately seems to be what these people want, invulnerable Sims who only die of age).

"bella_goth;c-17777460" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 so you rather not have any toggles cuz people will complain anyways?
perhaps the pack could use more toggles as the ones it got are a bit too generic.

No, @bella_goth, I am saying toggles don’t seem to matter, because people complain about a feature anyway and then the feature gets removed, and I don’t have an issue with people voicing their opinions but I do have an issue with a feature I was looking forward to and paid for getting swiped out of my game in a subsequent patch because those who complain refuse to use the resources available to them to remedy their complaints.

I don’t see how a toggle that expressly disables your sim from dying from weather effects being made available being “too generic” in fact I don’t know how you get more specific. But the complainers wouldn’t use the toggle and now weather related deaths basically no longer exist. Just I don’t see how a toggle expressly exempting your sim from fame is “too generic” either, but as another poster pointed out and they’re correct you can work your way up to a global super star now and receive very little attention in public because again people were given a remedy, no again two remedies/toggles by way of the celebrity disguise in addition to turning fame gain off and it’s still mostly gone.

Personally at this point they should just release the gameplay devs from their employ and just make furniture, clothing, makeup, and accessories. Because there’s no point in having people develop gameplay features that will appear in the game in June only to have them patched out in July or August no matter how many toggles they come with.

@Pamtastic72 i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm saying BEFORE nerfing something how about adding a toggle first, specifically about what people is complaining about & see how they'll react.
i have yet to see occults toggles, which is one of the things people complains the most about.

@Pamtastic72 I kinda agree with toggles not meaning much because they don't use direct toggles a lot in ts4 but they use discreet toggles! You are still in control!!! As I stated before you could easily not become a 5star celebrity or cheat the start yyou want if you didn't want crazy fans but just a little fame.
You could disguise yourself if you just didn't want ANY attention at all.

You could lock your doors, use garlic and stay away from vampire lore to avoid ALL breakins which wasn't even that frequent in the first place.

You could turn off the weather options. You could upgrade the murphey bed!!
Spellcaster are limited to their realm, so is possessed sims. You could even delete them if u never wanted to see them.

I could go on and on but we have all sorts of toggles that are in game. There is literally no reason for anything to be nerfed ? people just don't seem to want to make use of it. They want it gone completely.

"bella_goth;c-17777506" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm saying BEFORE nerfing something how about adding a toggle first, specifically about what people is complaining about & see how they'll react.
i have yet to see occults toggles, which is one of the things people complains the most about.

Well it’s too late for Vampires. They’re basically sims in costumes now, and that pack is a double priced stuff pack. These occult’s in Paranormal come with a toggle in that you have to intentionally set your lot type to Haunted House to trigger the behavior in addition to using some of the objects but I am certain it won’t matter, the dollhouse crowd will complain and then it will all be dialed down to almost zero. Your haunted house will only end up seeming haunted once every three in game years and then only if you force it to.

The great irony to me is that a lot of the same people I see complaining to the point of getting this stuff nerfed are the same ones who make threads complaining the game “lacks depth” or “meaningful gameplay”.

"Babykittyjade;c-17777507" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 I kinda agree with toggles not meaning much because they don't use direct toggles a lot in ts4 but they use discreet toggles! You are still in control!!! As I stated before you could easily not become a 5star celebrity or cheat the start yyou want if you didn't want crazy fans but just a little fame.
You could disguise yourself if you just didn't want ANY attention at all.

You could lock your doors, use garlic and stay away from vampire lore to avoid ALL breakins which wasn't even that frequent in the first place.

You could turn off the weather options. You could upgrade the murphey bed!!
Spellcaster are limited to their realm, so is possessed sims. You could even delete them if u never wanted to see them.

I could go one and on but we have all sorts of toggles that are in game. There is literally no reason or anything to be nerfed ? people just don't seem to want to make use of it. They want it gone completely.

100% agree with you.

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How about instead of demanding that certain gameplay aspects be nerfed DESPITE that there are players that LIKE those gameplay aspects, PAID for those gameplay aspects and DONT APPRECIATE nerfs to said gameplay aspects, why not hound the devs endlessly to give you every toggle in the world in the same exact way people demand nerfs? That way, some players get what they want, other players dont get what they dont want and I dont have to scream whenever content I want and paid for gets nerfed because someone else (who's convinced that the game 100% revolves around their precious little heart's desires) couldnt handle content they didnt want in the first place. Agreed? Agreed!

"InuMiroLover;c-17777520" wrote:

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How about instead of demanding that certain gameplay aspects be nerfed DESPITE that there are players that LIKE those gameplay aspects, PAID for those gameplay aspects and DONT APPRECIATE nerfs to said gameplay aspects, why not hound the devs endlessly to give you toggles in the same exact way people demand nerfs? That way, some players get what they want, other players dont get what they dont want and I dont have to scream whenever content I want and paid for gets nerfed because someone else couldnt handle content they didnt want in the first place. Agreed? Agreed!

And then if they still complain the devs should just simply point out that toggles were given. Whether they be in the settings or incorporated into gameplay itself and tell the complainers if they cannot to use them that’s their problem.

Like the devs nerfing everything proves they don't care about the packs and only ppl buying em

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17777206" wrote:
The toggle exists.
The toggle to switch off specter visits and avoid paranormal activity is to not assign the house as a haunted house lot type.
If folks can’t use a simple toggle like that (by simply not using the lot type) and still complain, they have a personal issue that needs to be addressed. Perhaps the only solution for them is to quit playing the sims and just live their realistic life, because it can’t get any more realistic than that.

In response to the supernatural avis: I know you can’t tell but my avatar is a 300 year old wizard based on myself as a 300 year old wizard.

Yeah, and we tried to tell people to use garlic to stop vampire break-ins but EA still listened to the complainers.

Instead of using the tools the game gives us, they want EA to stop it altogether.