Don't Complain if You Buy The Pack

@GalacticGal you can feel safe purchasing the pack for just CAS and BB. You will not experience any haunting activities if you’re lot type is not set to Haunted Residential, none of the furniture or clutter produces haunting effects if you don’t intentionally activate it. I will admit due to some unexpected events in my house I haven’t actually played the pack yet. But from my understanding from the live stream and some YouTube videos none of the objects produce their paranormal effects outside of a Haunted Residential lot type. The black flame candles have to be purchased in the reward store or gifted to you by the little specters so, if you don’t purchase them or interact with a haunting you will never see them. With this pack, you very much have to choose to be haunted, and it’s very possible to buy it just for the stuff without engaging with the gameplay if that’s what you prefer.

ETA: that’s the point of this thread, the players (not specifically you Galacticgal. In fact I can’t say I’ve ever seen you do it at all.) who buy packs containing features that are well advertised and demonstrated ahead of time, that have “toggles” whether those be in game items or actual check boxes in settings to mitigate or even fully avoid those features who then wide scale complain about them to the point where the devs essentially tune them entirely out of the game, making them almost completely unavailable to people who do want them.

It is a Stuff Pack, so it's kind of okay to purchase it just for Stuff. Especially when the stuff is so nice as it is - a real mix and match pack.

If you want to try the occult stuff, that's cool. But if you KNOW you don't like occult things, don't buy it to complain about them.

People will always find a way to complain or spreading hatred.

Yes. I get that something like Vampires breaking into your home EVERY SINGLE NIGHT is annoying, but I sure as hell remember people demanding that the whole feature be removed from the game because they don't even like vampires in the first place..........Then why buy the vampire pack if you didn't like vampires? I think Snowy Escape and Eco Lifestyle are lame sounding expansion packs. So you know what I did? I didn't buy them!

"Pamtastic72;c-17777441" wrote:
As I said on another thread, toggles don’t appease them. We got 2 toggles with Seasons, one to shut off blizzards and thunderstorms and one to shut off temperature effects on sims. But, people still had a massive hissy about sims dying from extreme temperatures. I even pointed out to the person who was leading the charge to have weather deaths nerfed that they could shut off the effects of temperature on their sims, and the literally came back at me saying they shouldn’t have to, because their sims not feeling hot or cold wasn’t realistic. So ultimately weather deaths have been tuned virtually out of existence, along with vampire behavior, and Murphy bed deaths (which tons of people requested making a return), and vending machine deaths were basically nerfed at the outset because you have really force things in order to make them happen. IMO, the rainbows and unicorns dollhouse players are sucking the very essence of The Sims out of this game. Like the OP I too fear they will set their lot type to Haunted House, add the spooky trait and then complain that it’s “invasive”, and “OTT”, and that they should be able to live in a haunted house without it occurring all the time.

Ah yes, I keep forgetting that people constantly throwing parties during blizzards and got people killed (Seriously though, saw plenty of people going "I just wanted to throw a pool party but it was snowing out and everybody died! FIX THIS, EA!" on the forum a lot back then.) so they just flat out removed it. At least it gave us CallMeKevin fans a new meme pretending that he's the sole reason why EA patched that stuff out.....

"dsef;c-17789395" wrote:
If you don't like the pack why buy it in the first place, it makes no sense whatsoever to buy the game then just complain about if for like the rest of your life. It's just plain stupid.

I agree. And yet there are still plenty of people who buy every single pack and complain that the packs are "lacking". They complain on every post and video that the Sims 4 is "terrible", but when a new pack is announced they preorder it and comment on the announcement post that it will be another "dissapointment". It appears that they buy the game just to complain about it.

"CK213;c-17789401" wrote:

"Loanet;c-17787551" wrote:
People sometimes say 'Nobody asked for this pack' and the statement isn't true because MAN are there a lot of Occult players out there.

But I'll tell you there is one pack that nobody, anywhere asked for. Not even Occult and Weird players.

Journey To Batuu.

I've tried, boy have I tried. But I just cannot fit that stuff into my houses. I CAN'T. It's just too stylised. And this is coming from somebody who genuinely tries to use Stuff from as many packs as possible in their builds and clothes, and built a second basement purely to keep their collections in.

Not true.
When we got a few Star Wars costumes, I wanted more.
And wow, did I get more! :D

Same. I use the costumes for servers and cooks in the occult restaurants, and occult stores. I appreciate the additional variety of alien "hat skins" for my ever expanding alien population.

Also, I loooove the B/B CAS items. I'm always wanting steampunk/futuristic/alien/fantasy stuff in my game.

I'm so tired of being anxious that they might nerf a feature/death just because the realistic/story players didn't like it. And is it true that they nerfed the vending machine death?? I just knew it was coming... Damn, reading things like this really puts me off playing The Sims 4 and I love this game.

What I don't understand with players like that. Don't they save the game now and then? Like so what if their precious legacy sim dies randomly. Just hit that load button and it is like nothing ever happened! I understand if you forget to save, I do that too sometimes. But then that is on you, not the game.

They just ruin everything in this game. Removing every random thing that makes the gameplay more fun and chaotic. I really hope a Guru is reading this thread.

"Icewolf;c-17790327" wrote:
I'm so tired of being anxious that they might nerf a feature/death just because the realistic/story players didn't like it. And is it true that they nerfed the vending machine death?? I just knew it was coming... ❤️❤️❤️❤️, reading things like this really puts me off playing The Sims 4 and I love this game.

What I don't understand with players like that. Don't they save the game now and then? Like so what if their precious legacy sim dies randomly. Just hit that load button and it is like nothing ever happened! I understand if you forget to save, I do that too sometimes. But then that is on you, not the game.

They just ruin everything in this game. Removing every random thing that makes the gameplay more fun and chaotic. I really hope a Guru is reading this thread.

Vending machine deaths came pre-nerfed in that it falls on your sim the first time, they get dazed. Then while they’re still dazed you have to get to fall on them a second (maybe even third?) time. You have to force it so hard it’s not at all an unexpected or random occurrence. So they simultaneously brought it back, and nerfed it at the same time.

@DoodlyDoofus there were also a ton of complaints about sims dying in blizzards outside of gyms right after the pack came out. So during that kerfuffle I took one of my sims to the gym in a completely vanilla game (using cheats to keep his needs filled) I took him to the gym on the first day of winter and kept him there for a week. I sat with the game camera trained on the sidewalk outside. I think on day 4 or five a blizzard came I sat and I watched as sim after sim, after sim spawned by the library in Willow Creek and ran into the gym, some turned blue, all had chattering teeth and zero, zip, zilch met their ultimate doom on the sidewalk. There was no mass die off, nothing. But, in the end, despite a toggle in settings to make sims immune to temperature effects weather deaths were nerfed.

"Pamtastic72;c-17790454" wrote:

"Icewolf;c-17790327" wrote:
I'm so tired of being anxious that they might nerf a feature/death just because the realistic/story players didn't like it. And is it true that they nerfed the vending machine death?? I just knew it was coming... ❤️❤️❤️❤️, reading things like this really puts me off playing The Sims 4 and I love this game.

What I don't understand with players like that. Don't they save the game now and then? Like so what if their precious legacy sim dies randomly. Just hit that load button and it is like nothing ever happened! I understand if you forget to save, I do that too sometimes. But then that is on you, not the game.

They just ruin everything in this game. Removing every random thing that makes the gameplay more fun and chaotic. I really hope a Guru is reading this thread.

Vending machine deaths came pre-nerfed in that it falls on your sim the first time, they get dazed. Then while they’re still dazed you have to get to fall on them a second (maybe even third?) time. You have to force it so hard it’s not at all an unexpected or random occurrence. So they simultaneously brought it back, and nerfed it at the same time.

Ah, I see. Meh, I hate having to force things to happen. Should be totally random instead.