"GrayLady2010;12996436" wrote:
"Jarsie9;12996322" wrote:
@BettyBoop55, have you looked at General Discussion lately? If you notice, there's hardly any negative threads regarding the game or toddlers, aside from one or two. What this means to me is that the fans are already giving up and have lost hope. I remember putting a response in a thread that said EA should be glad for all the flames, because, at least, it shows that we care. And the worse thing that can happen is when the fans who dislike The Sims 4 go silent, because that means that they've already started saying "Forget you, EA/Maxis". Most have gone back to playing their old games, because, imperfect as those games are, they're better than this current iteration (at least, in their opinion).
Now I know there are pro-TS4 players who are happy to see this happening because that means that they won and all the nay-sayers are (largely) gone, but what they don't realize is this: Anytime you are in a forum where there is complete agreement, that forum starts dying a slow death. People like controversy, they like conflict because it gives them a reason to log onto the forums and read. I know I'm more likely to stay and participate if there's something going on, but if all I see is threads about the game and it's not a situation that interests me, I won't bother even reading the thread. There are some threads here that I have never participated in because they don't interest me.
To the OP, I appreciate what you're saying, I'm sorry, I disagree. Whining and complaining has had little result so far; I doubt very much it will help. EA/Maxis knows what we want. They also know that Christmas is coming up and if toddlers aren't patched in somehow (and yes, they'll probably be limited, but given this game engine, at least it'll be better than nothing), they can kiss their Christmas sales goodbye. The crowd that is already supporting this game isn't going to be enough to maintain it; it doesn't take a genius to figure it out, especially since word of mouth is a powerful tool, and there's enough experienced TS4 players who have walked away to tell their friends/relatives not to waste their money...or at least wait til they can buy the game at a drastically reduced price.
Either way, EA is losing money. The strongest message we can send EA is to stop giving EA feedback in the General Discussion part of this forum and stop supporting The Sims 4 altogether. There are plenty of topics in other parts of this forum that we can agree on; we just have to accept the fact that EA doesn't care about family/legacy players. (And even then, I'm losing interest here).
I know not everyone is going to agree with me on this, but I think that since EA has seen fit to slap a large segment of its fan base, it's only right that we return the favor. Because, otherwise, we remain at the mercy of EA's Corporate HQ.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Agree 1000%. We did what EA said they wanted - we yelled, we begged, we explained ad nauseum why we want toddlers/generational gameplay back - and what did we get in return? I also agree that once those of us that are unhappy leave the thread it will indeed die a slow death, because even with all of the mudslinging we were at least communicating. I have a feeling that once the dissenters stop posting EA will be thrilled - at first - then a little concerned about lack of sales - then a little more concerned - the snowball effect. Honestly, the most puzzling part of this for me has been the fact that even though this is the "official" forum the Gurus weren't here every day talking to us. But they haven't been on the "official" EA forum every day - no, they were on FB and Twitter because that's apparently where they heard what they wanted to hear.
I totally hear you @Jarsie and @GrayLady2010, I guess I don't want to give up because I don't want to completely give up hope on the sims, even if EA wishes that to be so.
Yes we are doing what they've told us to-and like you say it's getting us nowhere. There's no respect for our section of the community-we get criticised for wanting these things and EA let's it happen because it suits them. It's suits them because while they choose to ignore us they want to gloss over us and our existence so we don't put off other fans who don't know or haven't appreciated how far our play style has been obliterated.
But I guess I want to be vocal because I want fans to be informed about this-I don't want other people feeling the way I do about sims4 and the lack of consideration for us as fans.
I agree with you @GrayLady2010, I think it's easy to ignore us at the moment while we are inconvenient for them, but I also agree it would snowball. Even within non family players some people say the game feels unfinished without family trees and toddlers so we aren't the only section of fans missing them. It's a symptom of what's wrong with this game but to cure it before it's too late requires a desire to do better-not to only listen to your cheerleaders! They should be thrilled people care so much to give them such clear and concise feedback! Making us wait too long will only drive away a lot of fans and once they are gone then it may be forever. Fans who heavily invested in the title rather than new customers who are an unknown. You know they could guarantee money from us in the past-and that speaks volumes when you have fans like that who give up.
