Eco Lifestyle vs Snowy Escape

I grew up in sunny Southern California, and even though the mountains were only about an hour's drive away, it's not like we spent much time in the snow. I never went skiing, only got to ride on a toboggan once and now after my brain surgery these things are restricted. I love watching my Sims do the things that look like so much fun, but are in their own way a tad dangerous. Certainly, for me. That's why I purchased Snowy Escape and I refused to purchase Eco Living, because the very fact they advertised it as 'change the way you play the game' made it repulsive to me. Now, I'm all for being a responsible steward of this planet, I just don't want to be a slave to it. I don't wish to be led around by the nose, so to speak, and play this game the way someone else wishes me to play. What would be the point? I play this game to relax and shut-out the world. Why on Earth would I want smog in my neighborhoods? I've already moved out of Southern CA. :open_mouth:

yeah I'm actually quite unsure how i feel about eco lifestyle as theme so i skipped it for now

it has some key items id really like to add in my game but the whole theme is just odd and idk to what degree i care about my sims living ecologically and if i want that type of realism or not

Eco Living added more game play, and I use it the most. Overall, I was pretty disappointed in Snowy Escape. Some of it is really awesome, and then the rest is more like an after thought. Since I control the NAPs and all that, I have zero issues with Eco - and I can play with all the fun stuff.

I have always wanted a pack like Snowy Escape. When I played Sims Vacation I used to spend the whole time in the snow world. I wanted a constantly snowy world for Sims 4 and it's now here in Snowy Escape. I really like the snowboarding and that it's now on an actual mountain rather than a halfpipe. The mountain has a lot of options for how the Sim goes down it. I think the hiking and the Japanese theme are a nice touch that adds to the game, but it's the snow that I mainly wanted. I think they've done a really good job with Snowy Escape.

Eco Lifestyle is a theme that I just have no interest in. I don't care to have my Sims clean up the environment. I like he packs that add fun things to do to my game like Snowy Escape and Island Living.

Just got snowy escape I think lifestyle seems more decent than NAP or eco footprint mess.

Snowy Escape was really the only pack this year that I was 100% pumped for after the trailer. Eco Lifestyle is okay, and I like the trash build/buy, but it doesnt rank high in my list of favorite EPs. Plus I had to find a mod to stop Sharing Is Caring since sims just stole everything and ruined builds. :|

Snowy Escape is my favorite- the aesthetic and Japan inspired world were great for me. Plus, Eco Lifestyle was just so buggy for me, I found it more frustrating than fun. I ended up turning off most of its features!

Imho EL has a *lot* more and overall more impactful stuff to do than SE. Sure the NAPs are somewhat disappointing but once turned off, I like the eco footprint, grimey states, community spaces you can put in every world, the careers, all the new crafting hobbies it adds, the new meat wall etc. SE adds primarily snow, snowboarding and wall climbing, and a career that is a bit strange. But there’s no real lasting effects on gameplay and while looking amazing, it hasn’t immersed me nearly as much as EL could. So between the 2, hands down EL. By a wide margin.

"SimTrippy;c-17758267" wrote:
Imho EL has a *lot* more and overall more impactful stuff to do than SE. Sure the NAPs are somewhat disappointing but once turned off, I like the eco footprint, grimey states, community spaces you can put in every world, the careers, all the new crafting hobbies it adds, the new meat wall etc. SE adds primarily snow, snowboarding and wall climbing, and a career that is a bit strange. But there’s no real lasting effects on gameplay and while looking amazing, it hasn’t immersed me nearly as much as EL could. So between the 2, hands down EL. By a wide margin.

oh I was wondering! if you add community space do you still have to enter the lot separately or can the sims use the items without entering the specific lot?

and is it different in other worlds than say the one that came with eco lifestyle?

cause I'm quite confused about that

also for hobbies i think i was mostly irritated by how it had so many machines for the activities so I'm bit on fence how to feel about the pack activities

though i absolutely loved to see the candle making and meat wall and i could definitely use some smog in some worlds

I'm just bit unsure about rest of it fitting in my olde timey save

b/b is really useful though so I will most likely get it eventually regardless

"Simmingal;c-17758292" wrote:

"SimTrippy;c-17758267" wrote:
Imho EL has a *lot* more and overall more impactful stuff to do than SE. Sure the NAPs are somewhat disappointing but once turned off, I like the eco footprint, grimey states, community spaces you can put in every world, the careers, all the new crafting hobbies it adds, the new meat wall etc. SE adds primarily snow, snowboarding and wall climbing, and a career that is a bit strange. But there’s no real lasting effects on gameplay and while looking amazing, it hasn’t immersed me nearly as much as EL could. So between the 2, hands down EL. By a wide margin.

oh I was wondering! if you add community space do you still have to enter the lot separately or can the sims use the items without entering the specific lot?

and is it different in other worlds than say the one that came with eco lifestyle?

cause I'm quite confused about that

also for hobbies i think i was mostly irritated by how it had so many machines for the activities so I'm bit on fence how to feel about the pack activities

though i absolutely loved to see the candle making and meat wall and i could definitely use some smog in some worlds

I'm just bit unsure about rest of it fitting in my olde timey save

b/b is really useful though so I will most likely get it eventually regardless

Trash only spawns in Evergreen Harbor for one. Not sure about industrial so much, cause I haven't even tried...most of mine are just naturally neutral or neutral heading towards green. Basically, normal worlds lol. The fabricator and candle maker work on the same skill, the juice maker is a different skill. I love the candle maker - I mostly just use the fabricator for a few things so far. The recycler is a great way to get rid of clutter! It takes just about everything lol. I haven't really touched community spaces yet - I think I only have one in one world...and I'm not even sure it's active? EL does add some interesting upgrades to things, that's for sure lol.