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"MidnightAura;c-16241939" wrote:"Erpe;c-16240176" wrote:"JoAnne65;c-16240153" wrote:"Erpe;c-16240134" wrote:"TheHavocado;c-16240016" wrote:
Well if anything, The Sims 5 should be the new era Sims 2 or a lot of people are going to be dissapointed, especially if they did the lackluster release day again. The Sims 4 Ratings shot down faster than an F-15 during it's first week release, especially when (according to wiki) you consider the fact that "...This was the most successful PC game launch the company had ever had to date".
The Sims games have always had low ratings in the reviews and among other gamers who never have understood why this game got high sales numbers at all when it in their eyes isn’t even a real game but more like a toy for mainly young girls (or a virtual dollhouse).
EA also clearly hadn’t expected TS1 to become successful at all. Therefore the budget for TS1 was very low which meant that its game world became very small and its graphics looked very simple and outdated too. The reasons was that EA only expected a part of the SimCity gamers to buy it. But what EA hadn’t foreseen was that TS1 suddenly attracted millions of young girls who never had played a game before.
TS3 may have had the most successful launch (most copies sold on its release day). But TS1 still sold almost twice as many copies. So TS1 must clearly be the most successful game that EA ever launched.
The high sales numbers for TS3 on day one was caused by the open seamless world. But EA can’t ever get a similar success just by advertising the next Sims game as ”The return of the open world” anyway because the simmers who loved it then most likely will just stay with TS3 instead. So EA needs something new to use in the advertising instead. Maybe it will be something about ”the option to play and cooperate with your friends in the game”.
Why on earth should I continue playing Sims 3 when there would be a new great Sims game with new content and improvements and open world? I’d jump over to that new game immediately. It’s not open world (or CASt) that keeps me playing Sims 3. It’s the lack of a better alternative. I’ve tried the alternative and then returned. There was only one reason for that: while Sims 4 made me constantly go ‘what shal I do now..., oh what shall I do next’, then closing the game after two hours tops, my Sims 3 game sort of plays itself and I only quit because I have to go to bed. If they’d deliver a new game that does that, open world or not, Sims 3 could retire.
I didn’t write that to you and you seem to have misunderstood me.
The reason that I don’t play TS4 isn’t about the missing open world either and we seem to agree about what is wrong with TS4. That wasn’t my point.
But if TS5 is marketed as “a new Sims game similar to Sims 3 and with the open world returning” then it will get low sales numbers and especially if the EPs are just repetions too. Not because you won’t buy it because I am sure that you actually would :) But because most young teens would reject the game. Partly because they won’t like an attempt from EA to revive an old game - and partly because they would have wanted something new instead and think that EA must have run out of ideas :)
For us here in the forum such things aren’t really so important because we are the hardcore fans who most likely will buy almost anything. But for new young simmers without much money and with a lot of other interests too in their lives things are different. They won’t just throw out their sparce money on a game that doesn’t seem to have anything new to offer to them.
I disagree with this. Open world is a standard In so many games now it’s normal. It’s an expectation if you will. My niece who is 9 plays the Sims now. She has just started getting into it. She has played my sims 3 game and she’s she’s played the sims 4. (I bought her her own sims 4 copy on Console for Christmas) but having said that she prefers the sims 3.
She prefers it because of horses and the fact that she can move around the world swithout loading screens. She gets frustrated at all the loading screens in the sims 4 but you have to remember she is growing up playing many an open world game. She also says all the sims 4 sims Do is talk lol
If EA brought out a sims game and said it was similar to the sims 3 with an open world I think it would do incredibly well and as a sims 3 fan it would pique my interest for sure it’s probably the only thing that would as right now I’m not hopeful for a sims 5.
Plus what is “new”for the series by this point anyway? Four series in and so much has already been covered. That’s one of the reasons every time a “new feature” comes to the sims 4 it has already been done at some point in the series and the sims 4 version tends to be more watered down in some capacity, take cats and dogs and not being able to view any information about them.
There will be teens out there who won’t have played the sims 3. The only reason my niece has is because I have it, had she become a Simmer under her own steam she would never have had the chance.
Exactly.
One other thing Erpe fails to understand is that many people both old and young alike who did start with Sims 1 - like me - are still buying the games from each series of The Sims as well. Not because it is a new game - but in fact because it is still THE SIMS. Games series are huge around the globe from all age bracketts - other wise big business companies like EA would not still be producing games in series they started some more than 20 years ago - and the people in huge number - by the millions still buy their own particular series every time a new one comes out.
One thing I notice in almost all series games that have been out for the last 15 or more years everyone always has a certain series number in the ones that came out before and seem to secretly wish they'd get a new version of their favorite. It is human nature of dyed in wool gamers. True gamers are actually more Leary of new games that does not have to do with their fav series games - not clamoring for something that different than the games they love. Kids tend to jump from game to game - or people who are not really considered gamers. Half the time the only way you get gamers to even try a new game that is not one of their fav series - is for the new game to have a lot of elements of the games they already play.
Kids, especially pre-teens and young teens, though often play a game solely for short burst of time as a time filler when they are alone, or as recreation with their friends. They generally like games that are short and can be WON, as kids seem to always be competing against each other - no matter what the game is. They play in short bursts - unlike gamers who seem to actually live to play their fav games.
Mobile and Pop Cap games are excellent types of games for the young kids and young teens. But for serious gamers you want a game that appeals to these people enough to make them want to invest in the longevity of a series - whether it is WOW, CounterStrike, Doom, Half Life, Elderscrolls, Need for Speed, Madden, Fifa, Star Wars, or the Sims - you want serious gamers who love that series enough to buy every single rendition of the game.
The way these games sell by the millions each time a new series comes out tells the truth - that series are very much bought and followed by many of the same people who bought the first one. Obviously if that gamer was a young teen of 14 when say Sims 1 first came out - and they are still buying the Sims - that 14 year old is now 32 - and definitely not a young teen any more.
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