This comes from my love of the sims but this has been bothering me.The sims 4 is supposed to be a life simulator. Why is everyone so worried about addons when the basics arent even right... babies arent furniture and shouldn't just live in a bassinet. This bothers me so much to see, cars, doors, and everything else pushed so hard when the basics of the game aren't even done right. i think and wish EA game creators of the sims would look at the full element of what the game is supposed to be. the sims 3 had the basics and we reverted back to the sims 1 with babies. then all of the glitches and problems players are having and it takes so long to correct them. Instead of pushing new packs the game should be clear of game glitches, to begin with, i shouldn't have a baby and go outside and change into a hospital gown in middle of winter. these issues were and have been asked about before but no one from EA ever responded or tried to correct it. I have always been a fan of the sims and been apart of this community since the sims 1 and i own all packs the sims teams ever created. so yes I'm disappointed there isn't really care in the basics of what this game is supposed to be. it's a life simulator, to begin with, and the only focus is making packs with 1 cool item that people ask for but it has been furniture or clothing each time. its been over 5 years... when will babies become able to be living beings, if the sims can cater to pride, and fashion you would think humanity and treating living beings fairly would have come first. as a mom, it does bother me that i cant recreate my life since my sim infants are permanently attached to a crib... that's not humane.

They are making less content for a biggest amount of money, and they will extend the duration of The Sims 4 timeline as far as they can and fans will still build hope on something that in the end will still a huge disappointment in the franchise!

If they make babies a real lifestate and not a generic object, I'd want the sims to be smarter, first.I don't want to have my sim pick up their baby, walk over to the microwave, drop the baby on the floor next to a pile of dirty clothes, and then go off to stand in front of the fridge while eating their cold in the middle microwave meal despite them having perfectly good leftovers in the fridge.

"thecatsred;c-17364589" wrote:If they make babies a real lifestate and not a generic object, I'd want the sims to be smarter, first.I don't want to have my sim pick up their baby, walk over to the microwave, drop the baby on the floor next to a pile of dirty clothes, and then go off to stand in front of the fridge while eating their cold in the middle microwave meal despite them having perfectly good leftovers in the fridge. They managed exactly that in the predecessor (if there’s a crib in the house), so why not in this game?

"JoAnne65;c-17364715" wrote:They managed exactly that in the predecessor (if there’s a crib in the house), so why not in this game?Because the sims AI in this game seems so incredibly dumbed down in favor of "emotions", but even those are broken. Have a sim child upstairs doing homework while their parent dies in the basement and they don't even notice. It's a mess.

Perhaps it is supposed to be a life simulator..just not a real life simulator :/

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renato007rigin
5 years ago
They are making less content for a biggest amount of money, and they will extend the duration of The Sims 4 timeline as far as they can and fans will still build hope on something that in the end will still a huge disappointment in the franchise!
thecatsred
5 years ago
If they make babies a real lifestate and not a generic object, I'd want the sims to be smarter, first.

I don't want to have my sim pick up their baby, walk over to the microwave, drop the baby on the floor next to a pile of dirty clothes, and then go off to stand in front of the fridge while eating their cold in the middle microwave meal despite them having perfectly good leftovers in the fridge.
astridentanja
5 years ago
"thecatsred;c-17364589" wrote:
If they make babies a real lifestate and not a generic object, I'd want the sims to be smarter, first.

I don't want to have my sim pick up their baby, walk over to the microwave, drop the baby on the floor next to a pile of dirty clothes, and then go off to stand in front of the fridge while eating their cold in the middle microwave meal despite them having perfectly good leftovers in the fridge.

They managed exactly that in the predecessor (if there’s a crib in the house), so why not in this game?
thecatsred
5 years ago
"JoAnne65;c-17364715" wrote:

They managed exactly that in the predecessor (if there’s a crib in the house), so why not in this game?

Because the sims AI in this game seems so incredibly dumbed down in favor of "emotions", but even those are broken. Have a sim child upstairs doing homework while their parent dies in the basement and they don't even notice. It's a mess.
Nindigo79
New Spectator
5 years ago
Perhaps it is supposed to be a life simulator..just not a real life simulator :/
astridentanja
5 years ago
"thecatsred;c-17364778" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-17364715" wrote:

They managed exactly that in the predecessor (if there’s a crib in the house), so why not in this game?

Because the sims AI in this game seems so incredibly dumbed down in favor of "emotions", but even those are broken. Have a sim child upstairs doing homework while their parent dies in the basement and they don't even notice. It's a mess.

It shouldn’t be but I fear you might be correct.
"Nindigo;c-17364891" wrote:
Perhaps it is supposed to be a life simulator..just not a real life simulator :/

Sorry but where life stages are concerned and how the humans in the game act and react? Most definitely yes.
Purrloin9
5 years ago
I honestly agree. Personally I think we have more than enough 'stuff'. I think it's high time to get the foundations improved so the gameplay can be more enjoyable.

The sims themselves are just all over the place. The emotions, traits, whims and aspirations systems are so wonky. Emotions need to be way less overpowering, traits need to do more than add moodlets and a few specific interactions, the whims need more depth than "buy this, buy that", and aspirations shouldn't just be new pack tutorials. And most importantly, babies are in serious need of an overhauled so that they are living sims instead of objects with needs. There's no reason we should be able to carry our pets around and not our babies. Elders, children, and teens also are in in desperate need of attention, because as of now, they're all ignored while YAs continue to get all of the gameplay while the others have nothing to make them stand out. Its a serious problem when toddlers are the only life stage that feels semi-unique, but are still ignored in the majority of content. I can only pray that it changes this year.
BayouGir1
5 years ago
The problem is that this team doesn't seem to understand how to add anything other than limitations. What the game needs for more depth and complexity, is more features to the features. But anytime we ask for changes or improvements on things like that all we ever seem to get is... more limitations. Packaged and promoted of course, as features.
Thenyoukissme
5 years ago
I fully agree. I have been putting off buying some of the newer packs because I already am dealing with so many glitches and bugs that seem will never be addressed, I dont really need to add more. The core of the game itself is broken, but it would be exciting for them to update things like relationships (being able to set sims as cousins, girlfriend/boyfriend )or add changes to the emotion system, which was the focal selling point for TS4. As well as not doing that, It seems as though when we want something simple that should have been in the base game i.e bunk beds we have to beg and beg and wait years. They make it seem that it’s impossible to add basic things. A good example is cool kitchen, they added one counter to a pack about kitchens and the reason for that is ‘kitchen counters take a lot of work.’ Isnt that your job though? I dont mean to be rude or negative, but I find myself getting more frustrated with spending $50+ on packs that lack basic content (especially when CC creators offer so much more). Time and time again we see the same objects in packs that are just a different mesh.

My point is that you’d think if effort isn’t being put into improving larger things like relationships, babies, emotions, that we’d get more effort into objects and bug fixes. Playing TS3 I am astonished at everything the sims do in base game alone, astonished!! Like I said with TS4 its made out to seem that adding the most basic of basic things is too hard, even something as simple as a ladder, which we already have for pools. How is it that previous sims games seem more advanced?
astridentanja
5 years ago
"Nindigo;c-17365380" wrote:
I think that the more you expect from the game, the more disappointing it seems. I would like to point out that not everybody feels it is broken and dissatisfactory. It's all good that people of the same opinion can band together, just remember that one group's truth may not be everyone else's :)

Personally, I see bugs and annoyances, yeah. But I have other things in life that I care so much more about, and I also play several other games. I can't quite relate to the level of seriousness some of you seem to put into what this game specifically doesn't offer (yet).

I have a feeling that the most major complaints about Sims 4 will be "rectified" in Sims 5. Sims 4 is already an elderly game and some things, the Devs just decided to do differently in this iteration compared to the previous ones. And have learned, I assume.

There's what we might expect from a game and there's hyping. I see a lot of hyping going on surrounding Sims 4 and yes, that's bound to lead to disappointment. The very reason there is this hyping phenomenon however, has everything to do with the game's lack of quality and content. Back in 2011 we got bunk beds. Hurray, bunk beds, so convenient for my household with six kids at the time. Nowadays if they'd add bunk beds? People would scream, cry, faint, and make videos about that. So, I'd like to turn it around: the more disappointing something turns out, the more you start to expect from it. And every grain will feel like a planet. After which it turns out to not be a planet, but just a grain. That's Sims 4's issue, or rather, the player's issue. The fact that everybody has a life outside Sims and other hobbies doesn't change that.