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Foopydoopydoo's avatar
8 years ago

If/when we get witches what kind do you want?

I'm talking tone/presentation here primarily, like in Sims 3 we got Harry Pottery witches:

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What kind of aesthetic flavor do you wanna see?

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70 Replies

  • I want some certain sims to be born with magic. However, you can always add the magic in cas, or take it away, for those of you who have a set storyline for each sim. Then, after gaining magic, they can decide to grow stronger, or repress it, to become good or evil. ?
  • Like many have already said, I think they should do something similar to what they did with Vampires and be availabe to make different types of witches.
    Maybe there could be some kind of ritual you have to do so your sim becomes a witch/spellcaster/sorcerer/etc. From that moment on your, sim can begain learning spells going from simple everyday stuff like grabing things from the freezer with telekinesis to much more advanced things like summonings or transforming other sims into zombies that you can control. Some spells would need a magic wand to be cast, while others could be cast with just your sim's hands and others would require a complicated ritual. And of course there should be a magic cauldron where you can make new and more powerful potions. Perhaps a system similar to the one for celebrities in Get Famous, where you have to chose between spell branches.
    Those are just some ideas, though. I hope they aren't restricted to just begin good or evil, but that's only my opinion.
  • I need my traditional wicked witches on a broom and crystal balls.

    http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Oz_Great_Powerful_Concept_Art_Dawn_Brown_07b.jpg

    Who make evil spells and potions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWfgLTRPGo

    I want to see the VFX team go all in with the spells.

    It would be cool if we could mix ingredients (harvestables, crystals and metals) in the cauldron to discover and craft potions ourselves, and ofc they could go horribly wrong.
  • "Loanet;c-16570051" wrote:
    I'd rather have diifferent types of witchcraft than different types of witch.


    This -- most of my witches would be more of the Molly Weasley variety, with some everyday type household spells (repairing broken objects, housecleaning, cooking, etc.) but with some bigger spells available. If they go with something similar with Vampires, maybe the bigger spells use more Magic Power than the small everyday spells so would require more recovery time.
  • "Simburian;c-16946085" wrote:
    A supernatural pack would better to be kept light as it would be straying too much into religions and beliefs otherwise, eg. Spiritualism, Wicker, Druidism etc. which lots of people take seriously. Monsters and Vampires are Mary Shelley and Bram Stoker inventions and are based on lore not religion. My niece is a Goth though and goes to Whitby every year for the Whitby Goth weekend with her husband!

    The Fairytale version would be preferable and leave anything else for modders for those that want it.


    I think you mean Wicca -- Wicker sounds like it would be the worship of patio furniture. :D

    (Sorry, just couldn't resist.)

    I wouldn't mind seeing aspects of various magical paths available, then those with GT could use them to create their own covens or other groups. The more options the better, and for those who don't use mods having darker elements available in game would be helpful for their own storytelling. There should be room for both Tom Riddle and Harry Potter, or Bellatrix LeStrange and Molly Weasley. Some could be done with traits -- a witch with an Evil trait would lean more to darker spells while one with a Good trait would go a bit lighter, yet could still go dark if necessary.
  • ChadSims2's avatar
    ChadSims2
    Seasoned Rookie
    7 years ago
    I want witches to be known as evil the kind you would toss some water to melt or burn them at a stake but since you cant even hunt vampires witches will be boring and the same. In reality I'd prefer a supernatural hunter skill which I'll never get that ship has sailed with Vampires which completely ignored a huge part of the lore hunting them.
  • Doubt they doing anything too dark. I would say we'll have a range between the Wicked Witch of the West to maybe a little lighter take like Bewitched. They have to make them vary after Vampires was such a hit.
  • "MasonGamer;c-16574288" wrote:
    "simscoven88;c-16573249" wrote:
    "MasonGamer;c-16570172" wrote:
    I want Sorcerers. Witches are far too basic, Sorcerers are far more powerful.

    My style is More Once Upon a Time, Fantasy meets Modern.

    I want Magic to be handled with Style
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO3L34shwpI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYA0QdpkZ4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDQ9XKb1IY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUjiRymLKc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1A7H4oYr9Q&t=983s

    Transformations
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/9475/f/2016/104/b/e/giphy_2_by_mphattyboi-d9ywoy2.gif

    Heart Rip - in a way it's sort of like Vampire's Mind Control. You force your hand into the chest of the victim and pluck the heart out like an apple on a tree. does it hurt? Very much! But now you wrest control over their heart. Your will, will overshadow theirs.
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/86dd/f/2017/086/2/9/giphy_by_mphattyboi-db3q2qx.gif
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/6bb0/f/2017/017/4/6/giphy_1_by_mphattyboi-davrnha.gif
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/1e33/f/2016/141/4/d/giphy_by_mphattyboi-da3bkp3.gif

    Wands are simply tools that will help so certain powerful spells don't drain you of your energy.

    How Parenting could factor into Dealing with your Powerful Children.
    Cora the Queen of Hearts Deals with Her daughters, Regina the Evil Queen and Zelena the Wicked Witch of the West
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaawFtqDMXY


    Once upon a time really is the worst show I've ever seen......... I hope they won't use that as their inspiration lol


    Don't get me wrong the plot aggravated even me at some points, It went down hill after a few seasons. But I do love the characters, could be worse tho. I actually enjoyed the CGI through Seasons 1-4
    My point is the Concept of Magic, Once Upon a Time had a better concept, than Harry Potter, More complex, and it seemed more natural and fluid. That's why I push it so hard.

    "GrumpyGlowfish;c-16572334" wrote:
    I have stated several times what I'd like to see in a witch pack, now I'll do it the other way around and state what I don't want:

    - Only good vs. evil witches like in TS2. As others have said, there should be several branches, and casting a spell from one branch shouldn't automatically reduce your power in other branches.
    - A "witch form". The dark form for vampires makes sense, so does the human disguise for aliens (although I wish I could turn it off for some of them), but I really don't want to have to double-customise every single outfit for witches as well. If anything, give them one special outfit category for witch clothes, and that's it.
    - Related to the above, if witches get a distinct outfit category, I don't want the game to force only one style on us like TS2 did with the stereotypical witch outfits. Not all witches are the same.
    - Magic as a skill rather than a life state. I understand the thought behind this idea, but with sims constantly trying out new things autonomously, everyone would be a witch before you know it, and there would be no way to "unwitch" them. It annoys me when my sims acquire skills I don't want them to have, like a supposedly technophobe grandpa suddenly becoming an avid video gamer when I'm not looking.
    - Magic based on emotions. If there are several branches, then yeah, this could be one of them, but please not all of them! I'm already having a hard time fulfilling my sims' emotional whims with emotions being so fickle and sims so unwilling to do what I tell them, I don't want to have to try seven times to get them to cast the right spell.
    - Witches being shamed for what they are, like aliens. Of course, there could be a "Dislikes Magic" trait or something similar to make some sims averse to witches, but it shouldn't be the general attitude among non-witch sims. On the other hand, I also don't want this "positive discrimination" thing that is going on with vampires, with everyone wanting to research vampires on the computer all the time.


    I agree how does Good = Light Magic, and Evil = Dark Magic?
    A true evil Sorcerer would know how to utilize Love as a weapon.
    and a Good Sorcerer would know how to use dark magic to help.

    I hope Magic is the Life State, and if a Human does pick up a magical object it won't work the way it would for a Sorcerer.

    except, Emotions, if done correctly. I don't want to see: If your Sad your Water Spells will be powerful, if your Angry Fire will be powerful. Or "Your sim can't perform Magic right now because they're too Sad/Angry" Like Since when?

    I believe some emotions could absolutely grant Success and Power.

    How I would do it:

    Successful Emotions
    Focused, Inspired, Energized, Confident

    Fair Emotions
    Fine, Happy

    Distracted emotions - Sim is distracted, Success rates are 50/50
    Flirty, Playful, Uncomfortable

    Weakest - When It comes to Magic you have to Will it, If you're heart isn't in it, it won't happen. Sim can still cast the spell, but not effectively.
    Sad, Embarrassed, Tense

    Extremely Powerful, But Risky
    Anger - have you ever acted out of rage? Sim is at their Most powerful, but also Most vulnerable. Mistakes will be made, and someone, especially the sim themselves, could get hurt.

    I hated that all sims reacted to magic the same way, in the Sims 3, I remember how disturbed a Sim looked when a witch was placing a good luck charm on them.

    Hoping for more traits, I think Sims who are Geeks, Bookworms, Adventurous, Brave, won't fear Life States, and may even want to befriend them.


    I agree with all of these, however, I don't think that sadness should be a weak emotion. Imagine if a sim is sad because they lost someone, or someone broke up with them, loss and heartbreak can be very powerful.
  • I would really love it if they did what they did for the vampires where they had them level up and you can unlock different magical abilities after each level up and there's a large assortment of magical powers you can choose from. Types of magic spells I'd love to see are:
    1.Turning sims into animals and animals into sims
    2.Curse or charm an entire area of sims
    3.magically break into sims' houses
    4.magically change the weather and also give each sim their own weather like putting a cloud over a sim's head and have it rain or snow on them or keep them warm during the winter or keep them cool during the summer.
    5.Have evil witches and warlocks conjure poison apples and force it into another sim's mouth.
    6.Conjure fireballs and throw them at another sim or objects, setting them on fire.
    7.Ice magic where you can freeze another sim or make them really cold.
    8.Use charms or curses on other sims' needs.
    9.rip out another sim's heart and use it to control them like make them fall in love with you.
    10.summon other sims to the magic caster.
    11.Have group rituals or separate rituals where groups of witches and warlocks or one witch or warlock can summon the dead AKA ghosts or zombies. Groups of witches and warlocks have a higher chance of the summoning succeeding.
    12.Different spell books for different types of magic
    13.Cauldrons and alchemy tables for potions and conjuring
    14.electricity magic to electrocute other sims and summon lightning.
    15.Use magic to speed up the growing process for plants and also use magic to summon underground tree roots to bind other sims and create traps to keep sims from entering doorways or build a trap around the sim.
    16.Crystal balls to locate other sims making it easier to find certain sims.
    17.wands and magic staffs for different types of magic.
    18.disguise sims as other sims
    19.Use magic to ensure the gender of a pregnant sim's baby.
    20.outfits that only witches and warlocks can wear.
    21.Telekinesis where the magic user can summon objects from far away places and lift other sims into the air.
    22.Curse sims with diseases or cure sims of diseases
    23.magic spinning wheel that affects random sims that after they prick their finger, they pass out for several minutes
    24.teleportation
    25.bring sims back from the dead (instead of summoning ghosts and zombies, they can bring a sim back to life)


  • neylajc's avatar
    neylajc
    Seasoned Ace
    7 years ago
    "simscoven88;c-16573249" wrote:
    "MasonGamer;c-16570172" wrote:
    I want Sorcerers. Witches are far too basic, Sorcerers are far more powerful.

    My style is More Once Upon a Time, Fantasy meets Modern.

    I want Magic to be handled with Style
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO3L34shwpI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYA0QdpkZ4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDQ9XKb1IY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUjiRymLKc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1A7H4oYr9Q&t=983s

    Transformations
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/9475/f/2016/104/b/e/giphy_2_by_mphattyboi-d9ywoy2.gif

    Heart Rip - in a way it's sort of like Vampire's Mind Control. You force your hand into the chest of the victim and pluck the heart out like an apple on a tree. does it hurt? Very much! But now you wrest control over their heart. Your will, will overshadow theirs.
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/86dd/f/2017/086/2/9/giphy_by_mphattyboi-db3q2qx.gif
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/6bb0/f/2017/017/4/6/giphy_1_by_mphattyboi-davrnha.gif
    https://orig00.deviantart.net/1e33/f/2016/141/4/d/giphy_by_mphattyboi-da3bkp3.gif

    Wands are simply tools that will help so certain powerful spells don't drain you of your energy.

    How Parenting could factor into Dealing with your Powerful Children.
    Cora the Queen of Hearts Deals with Her daughters, Regina the Evil Queen and Zelena the Wicked Witch of the West
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaawFtqDMXY


    Once upon a time really is the worst show I've ever seen......... I hope they won't use that as their inspiration lol


    The first 2 seasons were good. Then they went downhill..

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