Is The Sims 4 Endgame?

I'm leaning more towards no, but it is plain that they just don't want to put the effort into it.

I am more of a maybe but closer to the yes side.

EA shifted focus back around Mass effect 3ish maybe earlier about how they wanted everything to be online. They attempted to put Sims 4 online as we all know and there was a forum uprising so they changed it back to a PC game. I knew this Sims mobile was another attempt at getting simmers used to the idea which is why I didn't even look at it. Some sim gurus were laid off and some sent to Sims mobile so I think everyone needs to prepare themselves for no Sims 5.

I am personally getting tired of EA and their shenanigans. They have ruined a lot of game franchises for me.

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16440236" wrote:
I'm hoping the next one is a full on official reboot, personally. Just 'Sims' or 'The Sims' or 'Sims 2020' or whatever. Just so long as it's clearly marketed as a full on reboot. Cut the ties and keep the basics. A refresh would do this franchise good.

Wasn't the sims 4 a reboot.

I doubt this game is going anywhere may this franchise rest in peace

I said yes, but really, I think it could go either way right now. If this is the end, they sure picked a horrible note to go out on :/

"Erpe;c-16440931" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16440909" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16440850" wrote:
No, and the reason can be seen on http://simscommunity.info/2018/01/31/ea-talks-about-player-growth-with-the-sims-4-cats-dogs-console-release/

TS4 is still giving EA a huge amount of money and TS3 is still selling too which of course was EA’s main reason to make TS4 as it is.

But SPs and GPs seem to sell much better than the expensive EPs when they are sold as digital downloads. This is the change from earlier where EPs sold best on discs in the physical stores. Therefore TS5 likely only will get SPs and GPs which are cheaper to make and need less developers. Also EA has expanded Maxis to Finland where the Sims Mobile and TS4 for consoles mainly are made. So EA just need fewer devs in the main building for Maxis in Redwood.

@Erpe: You must not have seen the latest news on budget cuts and Gurus leaving or being shuffled around then.

http://simscommunity.info/2018/04/19/several-maxis-veterans-working-on-the-sims-4-got-laid-off-by-ea-for-budget-reasons/

https://simsvip.com/2018/04/19/maxis-update-multiple-sims-4-simgurus-fired-others-moved-to-mobile-teams/

Yes. But you need to look deeper:
1. The Sims 4 is selling very well according to http://simscommunity.info/2018/01/31/ea-talks-about-player-growth-with-the-sims-4-cats-dogs-console-release/
2. EA has expanded Maxis with studios in Finland where the main work on both the Sims Mobile and on TS4 for consoles is done. (The reason was more expertise in mobile games and their invention of a new technology which made it much cheaper and easier to transfer PC games to consoles.)
3. EA has for a long time seemingly wanted less EPs and more SPs and GPs (small half-priced EPs) instead of the bigger EPs which sold better in the physical stores. The reason must be that cheaper packs sell better as digital downloads. So I think that EA plans to soon completely stop with EPs and only make SPs and GPs which means that EA will need fewer developers.
4. The market for PC games is still growing even though the market for mobile games is growing even faster according to many sources. https://www.pcgamesn.com/pc-game-sales-numbers-market-share-2017 is just one of the sources.

So nothing points in the direction that EA should consider to stop the series. But a lot of things point in the direction that EA wants to make more and cheaper packs instead of the big EPs - and this is for me to see the far most likely reason for EA to reduce the budgets and the number of devs just a little.

Your sources are dated after the ones I provided and I was under the impression that the OP was talking about The Sims on PC.

If C&D sold so well, why the budget cuts and the redistribution of gurus, especially ones that have been around since the beginning? To me that makes absolutely no sense.

They may be leaning toward a direction of no EPs but then doesn't that point to The Sims as we know it being over?

Of course this is all speculation and we've still got EA Play to go, but it all seems a little suspect to me.

I really hope not, but it seems so, and it's really sad and depressing. I will never play sims on mobile. Just never.

"Hermitgirl;c-16440227" wrote:
Not if they own it and the rights. I hope they don't call it the Sims 5 though when it's made.

The franchise needs a complete clean reboot. Just call it THE SIMS and make it great. If this is the end of the franchise, EA will have killed it with the garbage game that was TS4.

"Bluebeard45;c-16441171" wrote:
Phones are fast becoming a mini PC and not to many want this huge thing sitting in there living room when they can have something that goes in there pocket. Sadly the Sims are headed the same as vinyl records.

Gamers still prefer bigger screens when they aren’t on the go. There are even investigations that show that mobile gamers often switch to playing on big tablets in the evenings when they are at home.

But the income from both PC games and from console games are increasing too. Only the income from browser games instead have become smaller.

I fear it is. At least in the way I want the game to be (and even Sims 4 isn’t that anymore).

I would say a definite yes. End of everything to do with Sims PC. I think they have one last finished expansion pack... maybe seasons... to be released in fall. That’ll be the last release for any sims game. I wouldn’t have thought this until I saw who was laid off