Is The Sims 4 Endgame?

Yes. They'll focus on mobile games now I'm almost sure.

I honestly fear the worst. It's rediculous since theres so much potential for this game, they should just give their simgurus more creative freedom , the gurus know what we want and what this game still needs... Just let them do their work....

Don't pul the plug out of a franchise that could still give them millions of dollars, there's still so much the community wishes to see and thus is willing to play money for, I really hope they see My first pet stuff as a thing to learn from and not proof that the end is near since I don't feel like they gave the gurus much time at all for that pack and I doubt they feel good about it themselves.

Anyways, I am gutted since I heard the news yesterday and I hate that we're being kept in the dark... Everyone is talking about it and so many people I know (quite a few of them content creators) are terrified what's gonna happen to their favourite game.

"Erpe;c-16440850" wrote:
No, and the reason can be seen on http://simscommunity.info/2018/01/31/ea-talks-about-player-growth-with-the-sims-4-cats-dogs-console-release/

TS4 is still giving EA a huge amount of money and TS3 is still selling too which of course was EA’s main reason to make TS4 as it is.

But SPs and GPs seem to sell much better than the expensive EPs when they are sold as digital downloads. This is the change from earlier where EPs sold best on discs in the physical stores. Therefore TS5 likely only will get SPs and GPs which are cheaper to make and need less developers. Also EA has expanded Maxis to Finland where the Sims Mobile and TS4 for consoles mainly are made. So EA just need fewer devs in the main building for Maxis in Redwood.

@Erpe: You must not have seen the latest news on budget cuts and Gurus leaving or being shuffled around then.

http://simscommunity.info/2018/04/19/several-maxis-veterans-working-on-the-sims-4-got-laid-off-by-ea-for-budget-reasons/

https://simsvip.com/2018/04/19/maxis-update-multiple-sims-4-simgurus-fired-others-moved-to-mobile-teams/

The writing is on the wall I think.

Even the head of the console team is now working on something else. Not a good sign at all.

"aricarai;c-16440909" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16440850" wrote:
No, and the reason can be seen on http://simscommunity.info/2018/01/31/ea-talks-about-player-growth-with-the-sims-4-cats-dogs-console-release/

TS4 is still giving EA a huge amount of money and TS3 is still selling too which of course was EA’s main reason to make TS4 as it is.

But SPs and GPs seem to sell much better than the expensive EPs when they are sold as digital downloads. This is the change from earlier where EPs sold best on discs in the physical stores. Therefore TS5 likely only will get SPs and GPs which are cheaper to make and need less developers. Also EA has expanded Maxis to Finland where the Sims Mobile and TS4 for consoles mainly are made. So EA just need fewer devs in the main building for Maxis in Redwood.

@Erpe: You must not have seen the latest news on budget cuts and Gurus leaving or being shuffled around then.

http://simscommunity.info/2018/04/19/several-maxis-veterans-working-on-the-sims-4-got-laid-off-by-ea-for-budget-reasons/

https://simsvip.com/2018/04/19/maxis-update-multiple-sims-4-simgurus-fired-others-moved-to-mobile-teams/

Yes. But you need to look deeper:
1. The Sims 4 is selling very well according to http://simscommunity.info/2018/01/31/ea-talks-about-player-growth-with-the-sims-4-cats-dogs-console-release/
2. EA has expanded Maxis with studios in Finland where the main work on both the Sims Mobile and on TS4 for consoles is done. (The reason was more expertise in mobile games and their invention of a new technology which made it much cheaper and easier to transfer PC games to consoles.)
3. EA has for a long time seemingly wanted less EPs and more SPs and GPs (small half-priced EPs) instead of the bigger EPs which sold better in the physical stores. The reason must be that cheaper packs sell better as digital downloads. So I think that EA plans to soon completely stop with EPs and only make SPs and GPs which means that EA will need fewer developers.
4. The market for PC games is still growing even though the market for mobile games is growing even faster according to many sources. https://www.pcgamesn.com/pc-game-sales-numbers-market-share-2017 is just one of the sources.

So nothing points in the direction that EA should consider to stop the series. But a lot of things point in the direction that EA wants to make more and cheaper packs instead of the big EPs - and this is for me to see the far most likely reason for EA to reduce the budgets and the number of devs just a little.

I don't think that it is the final game as such. Even if there is not a TS5 there might still be other Sims games anyway. I heave heard rumours that the game might be mobile only but I question that myself as to weather they would want to turn their back on PC games when there is no evidence what so ever that people prefer mobile games

In fact I don't think that this is the end at all, in fact it might be only the beginning...

I'm leaning more towards no, but it is plain that they just don't want to put the effort into it.

I am more of a maybe but closer to the yes side.

EA shifted focus back around Mass effect 3ish maybe earlier about how they wanted everything to be online. They attempted to put Sims 4 online as we all know and there was a forum uprising so they changed it back to a PC game. I knew this Sims mobile was another attempt at getting simmers used to the idea which is why I didn't even look at it. Some sim gurus were laid off and some sent to Sims mobile so I think everyone needs to prepare themselves for no Sims 5.

I am personally getting tired of EA and their shenanigans. They have ruined a lot of game franchises for me.

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16440236" wrote:
I'm hoping the next one is a full on official reboot, personally. Just 'Sims' or 'The Sims' or 'Sims 2020' or whatever. Just so long as it's clearly marketed as a full on reboot. Cut the ties and keep the basics. A refresh would do this franchise good.

Wasn't the sims 4 a reboot.

I doubt this game is going anywhere may this franchise rest in peace

Before some changes were announced I would have said no, but I'm thinking the focus will shift to the mobile game.