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5 years ago

Is this the start of Story Progression?

My sim just got these messages, guessing they're one of the new Eco Lifestyle messages but I thought it was interesting, I've never seen anything centered around story progression for other families built into the game before so I thought I'd share it!

https://i.imgur.com/edEJC8Z.png
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\"@Camkat;c-17555995\" wrote:
Oh neat! I didn't think my answers would affect the game.

Recently my sim's girlfriend phoned him and said she found a ring in his bag and asked what she should do about it... uhm... so you were snooping through MY bag and now your talking to me like I'm not even your bf or... is there another bf?! I answered something like \"what do you want\" and she got mad at me for not making her mind up for her. :D At least in the text she did, she still came over later to hang out anyways like the phone call never happened.


Unfortunately this is exactly where TS4 is lacking. The re-tuning of Sim invites and phone calls in order to give the player ‘a more meaningful and holistic experience‘ is definitely a step in the right direction.

But no matter how meaningful the text is, if the emotion of the Sim who texted is not carried over to whenever an actual, face to face interaction takes place, it can’t be called meaningful. The sim’s indifference to that memory renders anything that happend prior to the meeting completely redundant an was ultimately non-existent.

That an npc can get a baby when you give them that advice, great. But this kind of story progression has to go all the way to be truly effective. The emotion and memories of Sims have to reflect the fact that a specific communication took place. Sims need to remember and care.

Don’t just Tell. SHOW.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-06-26T00:32:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-06-26T00:32:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:273916/message:273927","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:273928":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:273928","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:273928":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:69031"},"id":"message:273928","revisionNum":1,"uid":273928,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:273916"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:273916"},"subject":"Re: Is this the start of Story Progression?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:273928"},"body":"
\"@SimmerGeorge;c-17556528\" wrote:
@fruitsbasket101 oh nooooo. I might have to buy the pack just for the phonecalls. Why?! :(


Non-pack related story progression should be core to the base game. Always. It’s absurd that a player would have to buy an entire theme pack for that. 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I like this. Something new and fun happens and I can still say no if the game have matched up sims who should not get involved in my story.

Currently I am making clubs and trying to get my sims to find a good partner but I would not like story progression where the game decides everything. That would make me go offline and never return.

Glad that they are taking things step by step to see how it works out.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-06-27T08:52:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-06-27T08:52:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:273916/message:273931","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:85435":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:85435","uid":85435,"login":"Reddestiny921","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-08-14T09:21:18.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://eaavatarservice.akamaized.net/production/avatar/prod/43/777/416x416.JPEG"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:12"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:85435"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:273932":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:273932","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:273932":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:85435"},"id":"message:273932","revisionNum":1,"uid":273932,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:273916"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:273916"},"subject":"Re: Is this the start of Story Progression?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:273932"},"body":"I have been waiting and I still haven't gotten that call my sims must not have enough friends...yes I know it's random but I'll say it's that, it would be cool if it was like this. I feel like when we have to wait for certain features the budget starts getting moved around and they can be better than if they had been basegame so if this is the start I think's it's a good point cause it gives the control a lot of people want while still being there better than a toggle I think.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-06-27T08:59:40.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-06-27T08:59:40.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:273916/message:273932","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:204762":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:204762","uid":204762,"login":"SimAlexandria","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-12-27T22:13:32.821-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1721239691000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:204762"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:273933":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:273933","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:273933":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:204762"},"id":"message:273933","revisionNum":1,"uid":273933,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:273916"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:273916"},"subject":"Re: Is this the start of Story Progression?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:273933"},"body":"
\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17556565\" wrote:
\"@SimmerGeorge;c-17556528\" wrote:
@fruitsbasket101 oh nooooo. I might have to buy the pack just for the phonecalls. Why?! :(


Non-pack related story progression should be core to the base game. Always. It’s absurd that a player would have to buy an entire theme pack for that. I hope these phone calls will be patched into BG in the future.


I have the pack and agree, it should be base game.

However, the asked a lot about story progression stuff in that recent poll and it'd have been too soon for them to create that yet, maybe this was just a little addition almost like a test before implementing it for everyone? Maybe they'll roll out a bigger update next year or the one after or something with proper story progression for everyone (and a toggle off for people who don't want it) (Hopefully not just wishful thinking haha)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-06-27T09:32:05.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-06-27T09:32:05.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:273916/message:273933","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:273934":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:273934","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:273934":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:69031"},"id":"message:273934","revisionNum":1,"uid":273934,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:273916"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:273916"},"subject":"Re: Is this the start of Story Progression?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:273934"},"body":"
\"@SimAlexandria;c-17557985\" wrote:
\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17556565\" wrote:
\"@SimmerGeorge;c-17556528\" wrote:
@fruitsbasket101 oh nooooo. I might have to buy the pack just for the phonecalls. Why?! :(


Non-pack related story progression should be core to the base game. Always. It’s absurd that a player would have to buy an entire theme pack for that. I hope these phone calls will be patched into BG in the future.


I have the pack and agree, it should be base game.

However, the asked a lot about story progression stuff in that recent poll and it'd have been too soon for them to create that yet, maybe this was just a little addition almost like a test before implementing it for everyone? Maybe they'll roll out a bigger update next year or the one after or something with proper story progression for everyone (and a toggle off for people who don't want it) (Hopefully not just wishful thinking haha)


It may be a test. But then it should be tested with the wider audience in order to get more substantial feedback.
If the audience doesn't like it, it's just as easy to take it out.

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\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17558015\" wrote:
\"@SimAlexandria;c-17557985\" wrote:
\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17556565\" wrote:
\"@SimmerGeorge;c-17556528\" wrote:
@fruitsbasket101 oh nooooo. I might have to buy the pack just for the phonecalls. Why?! :(


Non-pack related story progression should be core to the base game. Always. It’s absurd that a player would have to buy an entire theme pack for that. I hope these phone calls will be patched into BG in the future.


I have the pack and agree, it should be base game.

However, the asked a lot about story progression stuff in that recent poll and it'd have been too soon for them to create that yet, maybe this was just a little addition almost like a test before implementing it for everyone? Maybe they'll roll out a bigger update next year or the one after or something with proper story progression for everyone (and a toggle off for people who don't want it) (Hopefully not just wishful thinking haha)


It may be a test. But then it should be tested with the wider audience in order to get more substantial feedback.
If the audience doesn't like it, it's just as easy to take it out.



I didn't mean a test as to whether we like it, the survey would have told them that, more a test to see if it works without bugs/glitches, which is better rolled out small first. But I do agree, Story Progression shouldn't be tied to a pack. That being said, I want it. If enough people don't want it and it can't be turned on and off maybe a pack would be better for them? Right now with the phone calls it seems optional, just answer no, but maybe future versions won't be? So a bit torn that way... If a real version ever comes in to play and IS tied to a pack though, I think it should be a generations style pack where it would make more sense.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-06-27T10:22:54.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-06-27T10:22:54.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:273916/message:273935","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:273936":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:273936","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:273936":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:69031"},"id":"message:273936","revisionNum":1,"uid":273936,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:273916"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:273916"},"subject":"Re: Is this the start of Story Progression?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:273936"},"body":"
\"@SimAlexandria;c-17558017\" wrote:
\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17558015\" wrote:
\"@SimAlexandria;c-17557985\" wrote:
\"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17556565\" wrote:
\"@SimmerGeorge;c-17556528\" wrote:
@fruitsbasket101 oh nooooo. I might have to buy the pack just for the phonecalls. Why?! :(


Non-pack related story progression should be core to the base game. Always. It’s absurd that a player would have to buy an entire theme pack for that. I hope these phone calls will be patched into BG in the future.


I have the pack and agree, it should be base game.

However, the asked a lot about story progression stuff in that recent poll and it'd have been too soon for them to create that yet, maybe this was just a little addition almost like a test before implementing it for everyone? Maybe they'll roll out a bigger update next year or the one after or something with proper story progression for everyone (and a toggle off for people who don't want it) (Hopefully not just wishful thinking haha)


It may be a test. But then it should be tested with the wider audience in order to get more substantial feedback.
If the audience doesn't like it, it's just as easy to take it out.



I didn't mean a test as to whether we like it, the survey would have told them that, more a test to see if it works without bugs/glitches, which is better rolled out small first. But I do agree, Story Progression shouldn't be tied to a pack. That being said, I want it. If enough people don't want it and it can't be turned on and off maybe a pack would be better for them? Right now with the phone calls it seems optional, just answer no, but maybe future versions won't be? So a bit torn that way... If a real version ever comes in to play and IS tied to a pack though, I think it should be a generations style pack where it would make more sense.


Any bugs or glitches will have to affect Base Game, because it contains the core engine of the game. Without it you can't play other packs. Bug testing always runs through BG before it reaches expansion content.

I think that future phone calls will have options as well, so I don't think you have to worry too much. Stories shouldn't be forced onto the player. I might be completely wrong but I doubt that another sim will force your sim to go on a date with them. I think you will always have the option to say no. ;)

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