Kids shouldn't be cleaning autonomously....

Sims should only clean autonomously if they are Neat, perhaps also Proper. Any other trait I can't remember right now...? That also means Vlad won't do your dishes/remove trash when he comes for a midnight snack. Another small example, my sim got a visit from a friend today. Before my sim could start talking, the visitor was headed for the downstairs bathroom. There was a small puddle of water that I missed earlier. They are usually also very quick with cleaning out bad food from the fridge.

I think they should tune ALL sims, not just children. The autonomy for cleaning is way too high.

Also, not all kids are the same. I loved helping my mother with her housework.

Some kids do clean on their own at times. A rare specimen, yes, but some have associated it with "being an adult." Usually when they are young enough to be really poor at it. I thought it was still somewhat ridiculous myself until I saw the faux cleaning toys. *shrug*

More commonly speaking, I certainly tried to clean on my own if I thought I was going to get in trouble. The kid that makes and mess and doesn't try to hide it is the odd one to me.

When I was a child I took out the trash on my free will. From a pool of family chores that was the easiest and fastest task so far, it existed less waste then and it was done in less than 5 minutes. I was not that stupid. I know if I would complain about it, my parents would have given me something else to do, which would definitely have cost more time or has to done more often.

I think this is a you thing lol...some kids are neat. Others are sloppy. All need direction and teaching generally by parents but youre leaving no room for personalities. Besides maybe a toddler wont autoclean but a child would, assuming they've been trained/learned from adults to do so. There isnt gradual aging so at child stage, you should clean up on your own, just not the entire house. Kids do clean. Even a messy cat will lick its own behind ?

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's 'unrealistic' for a child to do their own cleaning or tidying up. Not every kid grew up the same way you did, all kids have a different experience. For example, some kids might do it to try and be 'grown up', it was part of why I tried to help out around the house when I was younger because back then I wanted to be like a grown up and help my family out. Parents don't always clean up after their kids, either; there are plenty of parents who will encourage their children to tidy up now and again where possible, to encourage a sense of responsibility into the child. In fact there are plenty of parents who do very little for their children as well.

I'd argue that childhood isn't all just playtime and having fun, learning to be more responsible is just as big a part of growing up as going out to play and such. It makes sense for a kid to possibly try and copy what the parents do without necessarily being 'trained' to do it, trying to be a 'grown up'.

It's not necessarily that the devs 'don't care' about the feedback posts. It's a harsh truth, but we must realise as players that we won't always get what we want and that we won't always get noticed when there's so many players talking about what they want from the game. If only a few players have an issue with something it's unlikely any change will be made. All I can suggest is looking for a mod that might disable it for you, or see if you can request someone to make one somewhere possibly.

"Calico45;c-17943058" wrote:
Some kids do clean on their own at times. A rare specimen, yes, but some have associated it with "being an adult." Usually when they are young enough to be really poor at it. I thought it was still somewhat ridiculous myself until I saw the faux cleaning toys. *shrug*

More commonly speaking, I certainly tried to clean on my own if I thought I was going to get in trouble. The kid that makes and mess and doesn't try to hide it is the odd one to me.

Yes, I agree some kids do clean on their own, but usually not without the guidance of a parent and without prompting from a parent. I don't think it is realistic that ALL kids clean in the game autonomously.


And do we not have a Neat Trait for those specific kids that like to clean??

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17943092" wrote:
I think this is a you thing lol...some kids are neat. Others are sloppy. All need direction and teaching generally by parents but youre leaving no room for personalities. Besides maybe a toddler wont autoclean but a child would, assuming they've been trained/learned from adults to do so. There isnt gradual aging so at child stage, you should clean up on your own, just not the entire house. Kids do clean. Even a messy cat will lick its own behind ?

ALL kids in the game clean autonomously. How is that realistic? It's not. I would be fine if only some kids cleaned, but ALL of them do it autonomously.
So no....it's not just a me thing. I'd just like a game where kids in my game act like kids, where, like you said, some of them clean and some of them don't.
At the moment, all kids will clean autonomously, regardless of their traits or what their parent teaches them.

"Kathykins;c-17943045" wrote:
Sims should only clean autonomously if they are Neat, perhaps also Proper. Any other trait I can't remember right now...? That also means Vlad won't do your dishes/remove trash when he comes for a midnight snack. Another small example, my sim got a visit from a friend today. Before my sim could start talking, the visitor was headed for the downstairs bathroom. There was a small puddle of water that I missed earlier. They are usually also very quick with cleaning out bad food from the fridge.

I think they should tune ALL sims, not just children. The autonomy for cleaning is way too high.

Also, not all kids are the same. I loved helping my mother with her housework.

I agree, they should only do these things autonomously if they have the trait for it. And, I agree that the autonomy in this game is bonkers

Some thoughts from my daughter, who's reading as I type to make sure I get her points across correctly.

"I will definitely do some housework on my own. I hate it when my room is too messy or cluttered, so I'll make my bed, put my clothes away, and dust. I don't mind rearranging my closet. I like cleaning the bathroom I use the least, but I love it when it's clean. I feel good when I finish these tasks, too. I wasn't really 'taught' to tidy up my room. I just like it that way.

"I really enjoy caring for our pets. I feed our dog and cats, brush them, and walk our dog. I don't really like cleaning the litter boxes, but I can't stand it when they aren't clean.

"I have been putting away clean dishes as long as I've been old enough. I'm better at it than Dad is.

"I'll also do more housework if I am trying to get (or stay) on Mom & Dad's good side.

"However, I will not clean your grill or take out your trash if I visit your house."

-Z, age 12

"MoonlightGraham;c-17943132" wrote:
Some thoughts from my daughter, who's reading as I type to make sure I get her points across correctly.

"I will definitely do some housework on my own. I hate it when my room is too messy or cluttered, so I'll make my bed, put my clothes away, and dust. I don't mind rearranging my closet. I like cleaning the bathroom I use the least, but I love it when it's clean. I feel good when I finish these tasks, too. I wasn't really 'taught' to tidy up my room. I just like it that way.

"I really enjoy caring for our pets. I feed our dog and cats, brush them, and walk our dog. I don't really like cleaning the litter boxes, but I can't stand it when they aren't clean.

"I have been putting away clean dishes as long as I've been old enough. I'm better at it than Dad is.

"I'll also do more housework if I am trying to get (or stay) on Mom & Dad's good side.

"However, I will not clean your grill or take out your trash if I visit your house."

-Z, age 12

And you trained her to do all those things. Since you are her parent. I don't think as soon as she turned 5 she was instantly doing these things herself.