8 years ago

Let's start discussing Witches

Edit: I've just realised there is a much much older thread discussing this too. Here is the link to it:
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/680765/witches-in-sims-4/p1
With all those ideas from both threads, the witches gamepack ought to be awesome :)

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One of the Simgurus said that they used a lot of player ideas and wishes to create the Vampires Gamepack. So they really did read the billions of threads in this forum section. And my most recent shower thought from today is this one:

What if we started talking about witches now, so the developers have more ideas to add when they start developing?

While it's not known if Witches will be the next supernatural GP, I personally think that it's going to be done at some point. And by then we'll have a ton of ideas ready to give away, at least if this and similar discussions for other supernaturals do well.

So! WITCHES! <---- that's the topic :P

Here are my own thoughts about what witch things we should have:

- Witches should have powers. It's such a nice thing with vampires that other supernaturals really deserve to get them too.

- Transformations. Witches of a medium/high level could transform human Sims into any other creature and the other way around: aliens (if GTW is installed), animals (if Pets is installed), vampires (if that GP is installed) and so on. Even ghosts should be an available choice. Maybe the transformation spell should have several levels like it's done with some vampire powers, and each level is another creature. The very last level allows transformation from something else into a human Sim.
Alternatively (if transformation isn't divided into different levels), humanization could be a seperate ability that only a top level witch can acquire.

- For Pets owners: Witches could choose one or more pet companions who are absolutely submissive to them. Such a companion pet would be able to get certain magic abilities and even basic spells from their witch. And if small enough the pet can sit on the witch's shoulder and be transported that way. Companion pets should totally not be excluded from the Humanization spell either so we can ultimately turn them into a normal Sim.

- Potions are necessary of course. I mean, which witch doesn't know how to make potions?
If a Potion Brewing skill exists, then it could be combined with some other skills too. So depending on what other skills the witch knows, they can create special potions. Like a charisma potion that's only brewable with some level in Potion Brewing and level 10 Charisma.

And if you see this sentence here, then you should also add some idea to this thread. I'm not sure if I should create an ongoing list for all suggestions though... ~~I think I'll do.~~ I tried but it's impossible to keep up. It's epic how much support this topic gets! :D

feedback

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LiELF
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
I love everyone's ideas!

I feel that they should drop the theme of "witches" and expand it to something more general like "spellcaster" or "magic user". Then we could have a variety of Casters that we could make. Perhaps the type of Magic User would determine the power path. We could choose to play witches, wizards, voodoo priests, sorcerers, hedge mages, necromancers, alchemists, etc. Why not have it all? They could have certain default powers be exclusive to each category, and then have a selection of spells that we could buy (like the vampire pack) to customize our Casters. Sims should be able to become a Castor through studies, enchantment, or apprenticeship, as well as be created in CAS.

I also feel that some of the powers should include raising the dead, for both bringing sims back to life and also creating zombies. I'd personally love a mummification ritual too, so we could have mummies back, and perhaps a way to create golems and creatures like Frankenstein's Monster (which would have been great with careers in Get To Work, but wasn't included.)

Potions are a must, and I'd like to have elixirs that transform sims as well, not just into frogs and such, but also in a Jekyll and Hyde way, maybe giving them a dark form similar to a vampire, that maybe tweaks their behavior somehow. Various potions should also be able to cure vampires and be learned without vampire lore, and perhaps give some skill boosts and freeze need decay for a time, among other things.

I'd like to see various tools for different Casters too, like wands and cauldrons, staffs and scepters, bones, tarot, candles, tomes, etc., and also a way to purchase the ability to cast using just their hands.

I'd like to see wards that work like lot traits that prevent supernaturals from entering homes, brooms that can be enchanted to clean, and spells that conjure meals and repair things.

Honestly, there is so much infinite potential when magic is involved that I feel it's too big for just a game pack. But maybe we could have an expansion that is like two game packs put together, and we could have the other supernaturals that I mentioned, plus a cool new full map with bayous, castles, and weird places, and a bunch of new build/buy stuff. It could be an expansion in which magic in general is the main theme. (Kind of like Makin Magic)

P.S. Familiars! Both animal and undead (zombies) and new travel powers on brooms, teleport, and elements.

ALL OF THE MAGIC! <3
xCryostasex
8 years ago
well let's face it, if the "witches" should be anything like the vampires, then they also will come with a power/weakness table! That means normal witches could become anything, like grand Master Vampires etc. They could then also be called differently! Like Sorcerer etc. I think this would be the best, maybe they could also create a spell tree, that means if you decide to become a higher ranked "..." whatever, you go to the second branch or you stay on the normal witch branch and just level these powers! :)
ibbipuffs
New Spectator
8 years ago
@LiELF YAAAAAASSSS!!!
fullspiral
8 years ago
I'll just grab some popcorn and read this thread and hope the devs read it too.
Loanet
Rising Scout
8 years ago
Maybe three types of magic - Good, Evil and Neutral. So Good witches can cast spells that emphasis the positive emotions, but they can also kill you laughing... while Evil witches can make you so angry or sad that you die. Neutral witches could cast all emotion spells but can't kill with any of them.
GrumpyGlowfish
Seasoned Newcomer
8 years ago
Here's what I think should definitely be included:

- witchy outfits, furniture and building styles (naturally)
- a separate neighbourhood for witches like in TS1
- magic as a new skill
- inherited magic should already manifest itself in children, not only teens, but of course their arsenal of spells could/should be limited
- magic-related jobs (preferably active ones)
- spectral cats (or different animals, as others have suggested)
- duels
- groups and/or covens

I also want emotions to influence a witch's powers, but I currently have two conflicting ideas about that:
1) The success or even the possibility of a specific spell depends on emotions. Love spells are more likely to succeed when the witch is in a flirty mood, anger gives a witch the power to cast devastating spells, happiness increases the success rate of positive spells, etc.
Or:
2) The best emotion for doing magic depends on the individual witch's personality and has to be found out while playing. A childish or playful witch is best at casting whatever spell when she's in a playful mood, an unfriendly witch needs to be angry to perform well, etc.

I think the first one makes be a tad more sense and creates less conflict from a technical point of view.

There's another thing, but I'm not sure if I really want this or not: Various magic alignments, and I don't mean simply "good" and "evil" like in TS2. There could be some basic spells for all witches, but at some point in their magic studies, they might want to choose an alignment and learn and cast spells specifically related to that. Some ideas for alignments: Death magic, nature, love, mischief, world peace, time, etc. This could provide varied gameplay and ensure that not every witch is the same, but it also limits a single witch's power at the same time, so I think I would only want it if witches could choose to have several alignments at once and not just one. It would take a lot of time to master them all, of course.
Heidr_Coerthas
8 years ago
In my opinion, witches should have tiers like vampire too. Then perhaps, the duel should be more intense and focus on abilities instead of just a random pew pew and sparkle sparkle. They need elements, they need special power, they need to be unique and they need to be somewhat making a huge impact to the non-magical sim. Also, if they want to make something like sims 3 witches where they can be backfired and die from it, they should make something equal with that for victim.
MasonGamerBoi
8 years ago
I just hope Duels or fights with any supernatural will be able to use the multitasking system

Like sims don't have to stand in one place and throw spells back and forth

my hope is that sims will evade, and keep a distance. occasionally getting physical.
Traarjo
8 years ago
They should be able to have unlockable skills, like vampires. And they should be able to choose if they perform magic with a wand or by hand. (more powerful witches could unlock "magic by hand"
Esine
8 years ago
"fullspiral;15588741" wrote:
I'll just grab some popcorn and read this thread and hope the devs read it too.

Ikr diggin this thread. Imma perform brujas on the gurus bewitchin them here :star:

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