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I was hesitant to respond because I was not sure if the @Cinebar meant in the original post what I thought he did but this seems to be case.
And if I am understanding the original post correctly, then I wholeheartedly agree.
The issue here really isn't about "this group or that group being represented" or even "one group being represented more than another" but rather that the inclusion is being highlighted at the expense of fixing existing issues and adding more game play to the game. And just as important, that a lot of highlighting comes off as nothing but shallow virtue signaling given other factors that are (or at least should be) very relevant in terms of the game.
To be blunt about: Is it really that "inclusive" if that inclusiveness only applies to the CAS and Buy and Build and not to the gameplay.
I've seen people complaining about various game and stuff packs even though some people like them. And with all due respect, people who didn't like the packs should not invalidate people who did or seek to do so. THAT is just as much a variable in "inclusion" as anything in CAS or Buy & Build when you talk about inclusion. And by the way, for all that talk about inclusiveness, what about people in "groups" that cannot be accurately made in the game due to all the adult Sims being the same height, Young Adult Sims being the same height, etc. For example, I can't create the near 7ft tall girl I went to college that was a volleyball player and a biology major (I think.) with back in the late accurately. You know because everybody is the same height in the world. Right, folks?
And though @orenjiAi has a great point here:
I can't help but wonder just how much the "quest for inclusion" has become obsession that has kept the devs from fixing things in the game that would make that "inclusion" more meaningful. Not much nostalgia here though I am an older player. It is just that for a while now, the Sims team has been using the slogan "Play with Life"...
Well okay... then INCLUDE MORE GAMEPLAY STUFF FOR US TO PLAY WITH. And even if that gameplay doesn't 100% agree with 100% of everyone (like the "debate" over occult sims) there will inevitably be something there for everyone which will only improve that little desire you have to be "inclusive".
And if I am understanding the original post correctly, then I wholeheartedly agree.
The issue here really isn't about "this group or that group being represented" or even "one group being represented more than another" but rather that the inclusion is being highlighted at the expense of fixing existing issues and adding more game play to the game. And just as important, that a lot of highlighting comes off as nothing but shallow virtue signaling given other factors that are (or at least should be) very relevant in terms of the game.
To be blunt about: Is it really that "inclusive" if that inclusiveness only applies to the CAS and Buy and Build and not to the gameplay.
I've seen people complaining about various game and stuff packs even though some people like them. And with all due respect, people who didn't like the packs should not invalidate people who did or seek to do so. THAT is just as much a variable in "inclusion" as anything in CAS or Buy & Build when you talk about inclusion. And by the way, for all that talk about inclusiveness, what about people in "groups" that cannot be accurately made in the game due to all the adult Sims being the same height, Young Adult Sims being the same height, etc. For example, I can't create the near 7ft tall girl I went to college that was a volleyball player and a biology major (I think.) with back in the late accurately. You know because everybody is the same height in the world. Right, folks?
And though @orenjiAi has a great point here:
"orenjiAi;c-17886588" wrote:
I think it's better and less stressful to realize that The Sims 4 is not the same game we fell in love with anymore. Not with its thousand DLC's, not in this culture, not with this generation, and definitely not in this economy. There are a lot of factors but simply put, it's not marketed toward us anymore. It's for a different demographic. Which is why we're not enjoying it much. But who knows? Maybe when all the dust has settled, maybe the Sims team and the new player base will find ways to make it fun for both them and the nostalgia players.
I can't help but wonder just how much the "quest for inclusion" has become obsession that has kept the devs from fixing things in the game that would make that "inclusion" more meaningful. Not much nostalgia here though I am an older player. It is just that for a while now, the Sims team has been using the slogan "Play with Life"...
Well okay... then INCLUDE MORE GAMEPLAY STUFF FOR US TO PLAY WITH. And even if that gameplay doesn't 100% agree with 100% of everyone (like the "debate" over occult sims) there will inevitably be something there for everyone which will only improve that little desire you have to be "inclusive".
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