[Maybe sensitive topic] Why did EA delete the threads of Snowy Escape?

I think it's a weird flex that you accuse EA of being rude while typing your post mostly in all-caps.

You are right. I was too hysteric and pathetic. I had to get calm down before posting that comment, even though none of them would care my post.
I apologize that point.

"m3ukkie;c-17707379" wrote:
You are right. I was too hysteric and pathetic. I had to get calm down before posting that comment, even though none of them would care my post.
I apologize that point.

If it is any comfort, the petition has over 1,100 signatures now, and the owner has given it to EA for their review.

https://www.change.org/su/p/electronic-arts-add-back-bowing-and-the-original-swatches-stop-the-disrespect-for-japan-714f6e35-d40b-46e5-9e60-bb726f7e9fc9/f

"SageRainWillow;c-17707465" wrote:
If it is any comfort, the petition has over 1,100 signatures now, and the owner has given it to EA for their review.

https://www.change.org/su/p/electronic-arts-add-back-bowing-and-the-original-swatches-stop-the-disrespect-for-japan-714f6e35-d40b-46e5-9e60-bb726f7e9fc9/f

Thank you for spreading the word.
Yes, I've already supported the petition and am glad to hear that it was sent to EA.

I honestly think the feelings of South Korean simmers should be also respected, of course, so what we have to do now is not just deleting and denying. We have to understand each other and find another way that both of us, well, mostly, could feel comfortable after deep deliberation. But my question is, is the company, which made this pack, really deliberating the problems now?

I just can't believe that they are keeping the silence, ignoring and even deleting people’s voices here. It’s like you say you like cool black music and ask black artists to go up to the stages and do their performances, but once they start screaming “Black Lives Matter,” then you say ”I don’t wanna hear that ugly argument.” *mute. If I did this, how can you say I wouldn’t be an irresponsible person?

You know what's sad is given how corporations tend to work, the most likely outcome of this controversy is that EA will see it as a risk to include various cultures in the future and will do the least of it they can get away with, without dealing with too much of the reverse problem, of people asking to see representation.

If they really wanted to get ahead of this stuff, what they need to do is learn enough about a culture before implementing and basically decide who they are going to be ok with offending and why. It's virtually impossible to represent a real culture in a game like this and not make some decisions that are going to be controversial, and it just looks bad when they have to self-correct midstream and can't justify the decisions they made to begin with because they presumably researched poorly and thought they could just implement a culture and please everybody. But that would require being ok with having a portion of potential sales not wanting to buy the product, so... corporations gonna incorporate or whatever.

If its the threads I'm thinking of, they were getting rather fractious. The mods tend to keep these forums on an extremely tight rein so I was surprised it was around so long. It wasn't aimed at anyone, they lock and occasionally delete any thread that gets argumentative.

The less messy threads probably got moved to packs discussion.

Also this thread might get locked as they dont like people second guessing moderation decisions.

They got out of hand. People started to compare war crimes.

Only reason they were around for so long was because people posted during the weekend, so the moderators were not there.

It's a sensitive subject, I think it is important to discuss but I also understand that moderators try their best to keep these forums a friendly place to visit.

"Triplis;c-17707501" wrote:
You know what's sad is given how corporations tend to work, the most likely outcome of this controversy is that EA will see it as a risk to include various cultures in the future and will do the least of it they can get away with, without dealing with too much of the reverse problem, of people asking to see representation.

If they really wanted to get ahead of this stuff, what they need to do is learn enough about a culture before implementing and basically decide who they are going to be ok with offending and why. It's virtually impossible to represent a real culture in a game like this and not make some decisions that are going to be controversial, and it just looks bad when they have to self-correct midstream and can't justify the decisions they made to begin with because they presumably researched poorly and thought they could just implement a culture and please everybody. But that would require being ok with having a portion of potential sales not wanting to buy the product, so... corporations gonna incorporate or whatever.

Thank you for your feedback :)

Yes, I agree that the most likely outcome of this controversy is sadly that EA will see it as a risk to include various cultures in the future. But so what? Are you implying that then we should just watch and accept cultures distorted and abused by the others, while the certain people feel disgusting about that through the game?
You mentioned they presumably researched poorly, right? I agree, too. Can their poor research be the excuse of abuse? Isn’t it culture something you should respect more? Isn’t it more research that they have to do now?

I didn’t ask them to be perfect and didn’t ask them to represent a real culture in a game at all. We all make mistakes, so we have to learn. They didn’t research enough. That’s ok to me now. It’s just a mistake in the past. My question is then, what they are doing now. They needed to at least listen to the people whom the cultures belong to, but, hey, they are deleting the topics and keeping on ignoring. That’s the point I am criticizing now.

I can’t agree “it just looks bad when they have to self-correct midstream.” I think you should correct if it’s wrong. But I agree that you can't justify the decisions they made to begin with. I know everyone has their own justice on their own story. It’s ok to me if EA ultimately concluded their inclusive way should be as it is after deep deliberation. But while they are rejecting the voices, how is it possible?

You say corporations are going to incorporate or whatever, because the purpose is selling this product. I don’t care how many copies they are going to sell now. Those are full of immaturity and deception, not only this pack. EA has kept on ignoring minor people. How was the Skin tone update by the way? If EA intended to learn somehow, if they could just show that they are caring or trying, I would gladly support them buying the copy.

Problem is people take it too far. If a thread turns into a comment war the mods will delete it.

People just need to chill out and make their points without screaming.

"WaytoomanyUIDs;c-17707582" wrote:
If its the threads I'm thinking of, they were getting rather fractious. The mods tend to keep these forums on an extremely tight rein so I was surprised it was around so long. It wasn't aimed at anyone, they lock and occasionally delete any thread that gets argumentative.

The less messy threads probably got moved to packs discussion.

Also this thread might get locked as they dont like people second guessing moderation decisions.

So you think those threads were reasonably and automatically deleted by the mods? I could barely read the most controversial thread which has 25 pages or more, but another thread, which I could read through, was not such fractious.

One could be reasonably deleted by the mods. Thank you for teach me that :)

And, yes, I know this thread won't be long. My words probably don't deserve to be kept.