Never Satisfied.

"haneul;c-17749043" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

"Oldeseadogge;c-17748824" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

And how to make in depth game play, the little details that add up to an immersive game, real personalities for sims, wants & fears, an honest memory system, an attraction system, worlds with many lots, worlds with functioning cars...

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of Simmers who played Sims 2 overestimate that game's current value. Sims 4 is a more successful game than Sims 2. Financially, the Sims 4 is doing well and people like it. A lot of the systems in Sims 2 (like memories) probably won't work well in Sims 4 without causing serious bloat and memories corrupted some saves in Sims 2. Regardless, because the Sims 4 is doing well, I think the developers don't see why they should make the game more like 2, especially when it comes to memories and wants/fears.

Reception does not equate sales. The number of sales isn't the factor how much the game is enjoyable or represent that it has better reviews. It also not show if many players after purchasing have played and still playing through the years without leaving to rest, nor much how many per player session pour hours into it. I would argue TS2 players are not overestaming the value of the game and TS4 is booming with sold numbers because it's a "trendy and cute game" while objecting is missing lots of content from previous without really compesating with new features of the same value.

Much like open world, memories is not the reason and the direct fault of game getting corrupted or bloated. It's due to dev team as a whole not choosing to finalized optimizing the resource of the mechanic to not cause those things. Call it neglect if you will from that behalf. Also, are you forgetting simulation lag? Must been because of all those emutions and multita(lk)sking around.

Hmmm, Sims 3 may have not worked well for some, it looks like Sims 4 does not work well for some and Sims 4 does not have most of the features that prior versions had and there is still bugs galore for some and what year is this? 2020 and the tech is not even being used to it's potential in this version. As far as Sims 4 selling well there is an reason when you can get it cheaper and not pay the full price so for me it is an artificially Best Seller.

"Sk8rblaze;c-17757375" wrote:

"haneul;c-17756598" wrote:

"DragonCat159;c-17756437" wrote:

"haneul;c-17749043" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

"Oldeseadogge;c-17748824" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

And how to make in depth game play, the little details that add up to an immersive game, real personalities for sims, wants & fears, an honest memory system, an attraction system, worlds with many lots, worlds with functioning cars...

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of Simmers who played Sims 2 overestimate that game's current value. Sims 4 is a more successful game than Sims 2. Financially, the Sims 4 is doing well and people like it. A lot of the systems in Sims 2 (like memories) probably won't work well in Sims 4 without causing serious bloat and memories corrupted some saves in Sims 2. Regardless, because the Sims 4 is doing well, I think the developers don't see why they should make the game more like 2, especially when it comes to memories and wants/fears.

Reception does not equate sales. The number of sales isn't the factor how much the game is enjoyable or represent that it has better reviews. It also not show if many players after purchasing have played and still playing through the years without leaving to rest, nor much how many per player session pour hours into it. I would argue TS2 players are not overestaming the value of the game and TS4 is booming with sold numbers because it's a "trendy and cute game" while objecting is missing lots of content from previous without really compesating with new features of the same value.

Much like open world, memories is not the reason and the direct fault of game getting corrupted or bloated. It's due to dev team as a whole not choosing to finalized optimizing the resource of the mechanic to not cause those things. Call it neglect if you will from that behalf. Also, are you forgetting simulation lag? Must been because of all those emutions and multita(lk)sking around.

I play on a giant 64x64 lot with many objects and 5-8 sims and I have virtually no lag in my game. I have a monster computer (i9, NVIDIA 2080 Ti...), so maybe that's why I like the Sims 4. I've been lucky and not experienced what others do. Every once in a while (like once a month or every two months), I'll get a little glitch (but resetsims cheat in and it's fixed and I'm back to 0 lag). Everything loads almost instantly.

Different people have different play styles. Sims 4 works best for me and its success and my opinion of it are reflected in its sales. The point of good reviews is to generate sales, so... if Sims 4 can generate sales without great reviews, what do they need the reviews for? Regardless, I wish they would put more thought into how they implement certain features. I feel like Lifestyles, NAPs, and whims were thoughtlessly implemented. Whereas the vampire system, reputation & fame system, and toddlers were well done. I loved memories in Sims 2, but I don't trust the team to implement them correctly in Sims 4.

I've tried testing The Sims 4 on even an AMD Ryzen 5900x (which nobody can even manage to get their hands on because it's new and there are shortages) and I still had inconsistent FPS and performance issues.

A closed world should be able to hold 60 FPS minimum at all times. Instead, I was getting 60+ FPS, then dropping down to 20, 40, back to 60, etc. If I really want to play a game with that kind of distractive instability, I would just play The Sims 3. At least, at that point, I'd feel like I'm actually playing a game.

I've also got a new laptop with an NVidia 2080 Super, with up to date drivers and the game is working fine. (It can have a 144 refresh rate but I leave it at Automatic) Have you made sure that any background apps get turned off when you play? Mine appear to now get turned off automatically whilst playing, either by Microsoft Windows 10 or NVidia and I get messages about mail etc., after leaving the game.

I really think, though, that EA/Maxis should up the specs. on the game again to avoid Simmers getting disappointed at lag times. It is inevitable if their machines are still the ones they started playing it on six years', even three years' ago as my last one was. I've never been able to play any Sims game on Ultra until now.

If you guys have so many complaints and think the game is so terrible...then don't play it? Problem solved. I love the Sims 4!

"MelissaBear;c-17761012" wrote:
If you guys have so many complaints and think the game is so terrible...then don't play it? Problem solved. I love the Sims 4!

That doesn't solve the problem, but whatever.

I feel your pain. This is the only iteration that I literally cannot play for too long and I end up going back to the pervious iterations. The fundamentals need to be revamped entirely. I’m excited for TS5 though... hopefully it gets announced soon.

There are far too many core issues well known to all forums regulars that have yet to be addressed for TS4 to be satisfactory. While I appreciate how modders have stepped up and worked their repairing magic, that such a thing is necessary is not a good sign. With other games modders take the game in new directions, are pioneers. Here they are desperately needed mechanics keeping the beast going.

Unless TS5 is:
Made by a team - from management on down - that really cares about the quality of the game, like the earlier teams
NOT online
I have little hope for it. Would just be more of what we have now, just a different (hopefully) engine and another graphics style.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17749260" wrote:

"morganlefaye;d-984718" wrote:
Before and after the new update, the game is still lagging like I'm so tired of it. I miss the days when Sims was so inappropriate when I was ten I literally was like oh my god... the remote is vibrating. I can't stand the bugs! The game is always lagging.

Lagging? Do you have a lot of mods or CC? Did you try and clean your computer? This is not something a lot of folks want to hear, but perhaps it's time to upgrade to a newer, more capable system? Constant lagging shouldn't happen, even on slightly older machines. The Sims 4 doesn't require that much juice to run it.

I can't I don't have anything else, except for this head ache of a game.

Hmm...again, I don't mean any disrespect, but I do remember you created pretty much the exact same thread about a day or less before this one. Are you trying to get feedback and find a solution or are you more interested in generating a multitude of echo chambers?

If this game is not entertaining enough why can't you find something else to do? I do understand your frustration, but it's best to leave constructive feedback rather than telling everyone on multiple threads how headache inducing this game is.

The developers don't care about headaches. They care about constructive feedback. They do read the feedback section you know?
In the meantime, maybe find something else you enjoy doing? It doesn't necessarily have to include a computer...

I like the game, but it's quite frustrating when your time is literally stopping for about a minute. I probably had made another thread of the same thing, but I forget a lot and mostly I love the game for the details of the Sim, but it just doesn't feel as it used like Sims 2. I wish there was more to it.

Going by the figures in manage worlds/households. Am not a blogger but can see how that would be a substitute. I content myself with TS2, sometimes using a blank template, sometimes just redoing one of the ones we have. In one game Pleasantview has been made all Victorian, while Strangetown has had the abandoned military base idea expanded on - even has a heliport. We all have our own styles, taking the tools provided and going with it as we like.

"DragonCat159;c-17756437" wrote:

"haneul;c-17749043" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

"Oldeseadogge;c-17748824" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

And how to make in depth game play, the little details that add up to an immersive game, real personalities for sims, wants & fears, an honest memory system, an attraction system, worlds with many lots, worlds with functioning cars...

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of Simmers who played Sims 2 overestimate that game's current value. Sims 4 is a more successful game than Sims 2. Financially, the Sims 4 is doing well and people like it. A lot of the systems in Sims 2 (like memories) probably won't work well in Sims 4 without causing serious bloat and memories corrupted some saves in Sims 2. Regardless, because the Sims 4 is doing well, I think the developers don't see why they should make the game more like 2, especially when it comes to memories and wants/fears.

Reception does not equate sales. The number of sales isn't the factor how much the game is enjoyable or represent that it has better reviews. It also not show if many players after purchasing have played and still playing through the years without leaving to rest, nor much how many per player session pour hours into it. I would argue TS2 players are not overestaming the value of the game and TS4 is booming with sold numbers because it's a "trendy and cute game" while objecting is missing lots of content from previous without really compesating with new features of the same value.

Much like open world, memories is not the reason and the direct fault of game getting corrupted or bloated. It's due to dev team as a whole not choosing to finalized optimizing the resource of the mechanic to not cause those things. Call it neglect if you will from that behalf. Also, are you forgetting simulation lag? Must been because of all those emutions and multita(lk)sking around.

I play on a giant 64x64 lot with many objects and 5-8 sims and I have virtually no lag in my game. I have a monster computer (i9, NVIDIA 2080 Ti...), so maybe that's why I like the Sims 4. I've been lucky and not experienced what others do. Every once in a while (like once a month or every two months), I'll get a little glitch (but resetsims cheat in and it's fixed and I'm back to 0 lag). Everything loads almost instantly.

Different people have different play styles. Sims 4 works best for me and its success and my opinion of it are reflected in its sales. The point of good reviews is to generate sales, so... if Sims 4 can generate sales without great reviews, what do they need the reviews for? Regardless, I wish they would put more thought into how they implement certain features. I feel like Lifestyles, NAPs, and whims were thoughtlessly implemented. Whereas the vampire system, reputation & fame system, and toddlers were well done. I loved memories in Sims 2, but I don't trust the team to implement them correctly in Sims 4.