Not too excited...

"Cinebar;c-17106345" wrote:

"bunny-gypsy;c-17106327" wrote:
As a mermaid player, I prefer how mermaids (sirens) are done in this pack, so to me, it’s worth it. They did more with mermaid here than in Sims 3, though I do miss the Kraken call, and having dive lots.

(I tried and tried to play Sims 3, but I just got bored with Sims 3 mermaids a lot, as they didn’t really have much going for them besides the one cool Kraken thing. They didn’t lullaby sims or enchant sims. They were just there to be regular sims, which I already don’t like much in Sims 3, who look pretty in the water... and that’s really it. They were basically just boring eye candy who dried out a lot for me, lol.)

I haven't read about their powers yet, but if it's just about mermaids for some then this could have been a GP as it seems so much smaller than past EPs of older games that offered ten times more in them.

What do you mean by “smaller”? (Genuinely curious, not trying to sound rude! ?) I’ve heard a lot of game changers saying this is possibly the best EP so far, so I’m wondering what makes it seem less than others to you?

EDIT: unless you mean smaller than TS3 IP, which then I understand.

"bunny-gypsy;c-17106327" wrote:
As a mermaid player, I prefer how mermaids (sirens) are done in this pack, so to me, it’s worth it. They did more with mermaid here than in Sims 3, though I do miss the Kraken call, and having dive lots.

(I tried and tried to play Sims 3, but I just got bored with Sims 3 mermaids a lot, as they didn’t really have much going for them besides the one cool Kraken thing. They didn’t lullaby sims or enchant sims. They were just there to be regular sims, which I already don’t like much in Sims 3, who look pretty in the water... and that’s really it. They were basically just boring eye candy who dried out a lot for me, lol.)

one would get more use out of dried fish than mermaids in ts3

"Cinebar;c-17106361" wrote:

"LaurenLoser16;c-17106351" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17106345" wrote:

"bunny-gypsy;c-17106327" wrote:
As a mermaid player, I prefer how mermaids (sirens) are done in this pack, so to me, it’s worth it. They did more with mermaid here than in Sims 3, though I do miss the Kraken call, and having dive lots.

(I tried and tried to play Sims 3, but I just got bored with Sims 3 mermaids a lot, as they didn’t really have much going for them besides the one cool Kraken thing. They didn’t lullaby sims or enchant sims. They were just there to be regular sims, which I already don’t like much in Sims 3, who look pretty in the water... and that’s really it. They were basically just boring eye candy who dried out a lot for me, lol.)

I haven't read about their powers yet, but if it's just about mermaids for some then this could have been a GP as it seems so much smaller than past EPs of older games that offered ten times more in them.

What do you mean by “smaller”? (Genuinely curious, not trying to sound rude! ?) I’ve heard a lot of game changers saying this is possibly the best EP so far, so I’m wondering what makes it seem less than others to you?

EDIT: unless you mean smaller than TS3 IP, which then I understand.

Yes, and even TS2's Bon Voyage which involved an island world (with two others) and all those activities though no jetski. TS4 is just so much smaller compared to those two EPs in so many realms.

Gotcha. I get that. I’m one of the rare simmers who don’t feel much nostalgia for previous versions of the sims (and I’ve been playing since TS1!). If I really think about it, there is a lot missing from TS4 that other games had, but for me it is so much better in what it has that the others didn’t. That’s just me, though. I definitely can appreciate the criticisms of TS4 that other people have. ?

"LaurenLoser16;c-17106383" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17106361" wrote:

"LaurenLoser16;c-17106351" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17106345" wrote:

"bunny-gypsy;c-17106327" wrote:
As a mermaid player, I prefer how mermaids (sirens) are done in this pack, so to me, it’s worth it. They did more with mermaid here than in Sims 3, though I do miss the Kraken call, and having dive lots.

(I tried and tried to play Sims 3, but I just got bored with Sims 3 mermaids a lot, as they didn’t really have much going for them besides the one cool Kraken thing. They didn’t lullaby sims or enchant sims. They were just there to be regular sims, which I already don’t like much in Sims 3, who look pretty in the water... and that’s really it. They were basically just boring eye candy who dried out a lot for me, lol.)

I haven't read about their powers yet, but if it's just about mermaids for some then this could have been a GP as it seems so much smaller than past EPs of older games that offered ten times more in them.

What do you mean by “smaller”? (Genuinely curious, not trying to sound rude! ?) I’ve heard a lot of game changers saying this is possibly the best EP so far, so I’m wondering what makes it seem less than others to you?

EDIT: unless you mean smaller than TS3 IP, which then I understand.

Yes, and even TS2's Bon Voyage which involved an island world (with two others) and all those activities though no jetski. TS4 is just so much smaller compared to those two EPs in so many realms.

Gotcha. I get that. I’m one of the rare simmers who don’t feel much nostalgia for previous versions of the sims (and I’ve been playing since TS1!). If I really think about it, there is a lot missing from TS4 that other games had, but for me it is so much better in what it has that the others didn’t. That’s just me, though. I definitely can appreciate the criticisms of TS4 that other people have. ?

Yeah, I think you and I belong to that category of simmer that doesnt get mentioned often. I played sims1, 19 years ago. And I played 123 and 4. But I just happen to like the 4th game more.

I feel like people shouldn't be salty about resorts just yet though in surveys hotels etc are usually listed under winter vacation pack
so if we get that I feel like it would really be much better opportunity to add hotels when they don't have to worry about making

open water, swimming, mermaids, mermaid powers, dolphins, boats, aquaships, tricks on aquaships, tanning, tanlines ,burns , lounge chairs, floats, sandcastles, sliding doors, shipwrecks, 3 careers, elementals, elemental powers, loads of beautiful b/b and cas items , waterfall woohoo, volcanos, things flying out of volcanos, neighbor dynamics, village parties, snorkeling, whole lot of new collectibles, new type of fishing, jumping off foundations, glass floors...

list goes on

like personally I am mostly salty about the ladder they made only being usable on foundations (kinda petty)
but honestly I find this pack to be whole lot more use than some of the previous packs

"jaymancraz;d-960522" wrote:
Anyone else with me? I usually love expansions and as a Sims fan, I just feel this expansion is lacking in gameplay. The neighborhood and items look beautiful but beautiful items aren’t enough to justify the price of an expansion. They could have at least added resorts to the game, but we get dolphins, mermaids, and sunburns?

I agree with this though. There's not a whole lot of new gameplay. Seasons has more gameplay depth. For example, I wouldnt be surprised if the new fishing career is a rabbit hole. I really like watching my sims catch fish. And fishing from the boats would be really rewarding, especially as part of their work. But its most likely something you only get paid for if you go to a rabbit hole.

Also, there are no rental lots. So that takes away a dimension. Then there's the rabbit hole water activities. Not cool.

Its 2019. Time to stop having to pretend and imagine our way through so much of the sims games.

The mermaids are interesting but im certain they dont have a whole lot that unique to them that sets them apart from normal sims.

And the sunbathing, swimming in ocean, lounging on floats, while super nice, dont really contribute in any way to the progression of my Sims lives.

So Im not super duper excited. In fact...im feeling very neutral and very unexcited.

I really wish they would step outside the box with this game. And I am not talking about wacky/unrealistic gameplay either. Im talking expanding the possibilities and providing useful gameplay that gets our sims ahead in life . I hope University wows me. Because it is the only pack potentially coming up that will be more practical for many sims households and would likely be used by each one. I hope new totally active careers are introduced and a couple semi-active ones. And I hope that Uni expansion brings some much needed depth to our sims virtual reality.

Only thing I'm really disappointed about is no pool slides and waterfalls were added.

"jaymancraz;d-960522" wrote:
Anyone else with me? I usually love expansions and as a Sims fan, I just feel this expansion is lacking in gameplay. The neighborhood and items look beautiful but beautiful items aren’t enough to justify the price of an expansion. They could have at least added resorts to the game, but we get dolphins, mermaids, and sunburns?

I gotta admit when folks kept asking for a tropical destination I wasn't interested. I wanted university to be next, perhaps some witches or something else? But watching EAplay announce Island Living I got excited. Well executed, and mermaids? Not what I expected for sims4. There are many things I have planned for this new EP. <3

"EnjoyfulSimmer;c-17106423" wrote:

"jaymancraz;d-960522" wrote:
Anyone else with me? I usually love expansions and as a Sims fan, I just feel this expansion is lacking in gameplay. The neighborhood and items look beautiful but beautiful items aren’t enough to justify the price of an expansion. They could have at least added resorts to the game, but we get dolphins, mermaids, and sunburns?

I agree with this though. There's not a whole lot of new gameplay. Seasons has more gameplay depth. For example, I wouldnt be surprised if the new fishing career is a rabbit hole. I really like watching my sims catch fish. And fishing from the boats would be really rewarding, especially as part of their work. But its most likely something you only get paid for if you go to a rabbit hole.

Also, there are no rental lots. So that takes away a dimension. Then there's the rabbit hole water activities. Not cool.

Its 2019. Time to stop having to pretend and imagine our way through so much of the sims games.

The mermaids are interesting but im certain they dont have a whole lot that unique to them that sets them apart from normal sims.

And the sunbathing, swimming in ocean, lounging on floats, while super nice, dont really contribute in any way to the progression of my Sims lives.

So Im not super duper excited. In fact...im feeling very neutral and very unexcited.

I really wish they would step outside the box with this game. And I am not talking about wacky/unrealistic gameplay either. Im talking expanding the possibilities and providing useful gameplay that gets our sims ahead in life . I hope University wows me. Because it is the only pack potentially coming up that will be more practical for many sims households and would likely be used by each one. I hope new totally active careers are introduced and a couple semi-active ones. And I hope that Uni expansion brings some much needed depth to our sims virtual reality.

This. This is exactly how I feel. I remember bragging to my friends when I was younger about how pretty much anything you could do irl you could do on the Sims and you can’t say that about this iteration. I’m just tired of all of the cut features and it’s *really* apparent in this EP. Island Living is a shadow compared to its Sims 3 counterpart.

"Simmingal;c-17106419" wrote:
I feel like people shouldn't be salty about resorts just yet though in surveys hotels etc are usually listed under winter vacation pack
so if we get that I feel like it would really be much better opportunity to add hotels when they don't have to worry about making

open water, swimming, mermaids, mermaid powers, dolphins, boats, aquaships, tricks on aquaships, tanning, tanlines ,burns , lounge chairs, floats, sandcastles, sliding doors, shipwrecks, 3 careers, elementals, elemental powers, loads of beautiful b/b and cas items , waterfall woohoo, volcanos, things flying out of volcanos, neighbor dynamics, snorkeling, whole lot of new collectibles, new type of fishing, jumping off foundations, glass floors...

list goes on

like personally I am mostly salty about the ladder they made only being usable on foundations (kinda petty)
but honestly I find this pack to be whole lot more use than some of the previous packs

The dolphins could look more polished. And they probably dont even do tricks or anything. Not sure yet, but they will get old fast.
The aquazips and boats are nice additions but once youve seen them ride around on those a few times it wont be as exciting anymore.
The Lounge chairs are super cool. But its just a chair, that really could have been introduced in Seasons.
The sliding doors are something that add no gameplay value. The glass floor thing is something I dont understand why anyone would want in real life or the sims. Seems like a horrible accident waiting to happen. And the other stuff is just small little details that add a little bit of immersion but again, doesnt advance their life or the gameplay in any way.

I think there could have been more depth. But its a pack for when you dont want to do much with your sims other than relax and kick back and thats fine too. I think Sulani should have added little rental cottages. To add to the immersion for people who dont want to play with a family who stays in Sulani often.