Occult Sims

"Dannydanbo;c-16661090" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16660631" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16660555" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16660232" wrote:
I'm fine with the number we have. I mean, eventually you reach a point where you're creating a completely different type of game.

You mean, the type of game that 2 and 3 BOTH were?

I didn't play much TS3 and didn't play TS2 at all, but I don't think they're under any obligation to remake those two games.

The problem I have with TS4 broadening out in a supernatural direction is that there's still so much missing for a game that considers itself a "life simulation". I can't imagine saying, "Forget about university and vehicles, what we really need are gremlins and faeiries."

Now, if they were to release a standalone title, like Medieval was, that'd be a better option for both the simulation and supernatural sides. Put a different team on it, give it the attention it deserves. I'd play something like that.

Actually, they are under a certain obligation. I, like many others, enjoyed those versions and enjoyed the occult/supernatural sims in particular. So I, and others, bought this version in hopes of seeing how they would be handled in this version. I, and others, don't want a standalone version of supernaturals, we want them in this game, as they have been before.

By your theory, they would have no obligation to make any past packs, like Seasons, University, Pets, any vacation packs or any other packs that were very popular in the past. They just informed us that S4 will go on for at least three more years, so there should be plenty of time to add all of the supernaturals I and others like without forgetting about university or vehicles.

No, by my theory they pick and choose which elements of previous games they want to take forward, and they can leave all the extraneous stuff behind, or at least on the back burner. This way, a game that claims to be a "life simulation" actually stands a chance of realizing that ambition before we all shuffle off this mortal coil.

For me, I expect at some point or another that they will add a few more supernaturals that are fleshed out like vampires. I enjoyed the non-realistic aspects of previous sims games than anything else. If they basically ignore the less 'realistic' aspects of the previous games, then, to me, this is not really a sims game I want to play. I expect to get witches and at least one other supernatural before sims 4 is over. Different people have different reasons they play the game, but I enjoy playing with occult sims more than anything else, always have. I never really took this game as a realistic life simulation game anyway.

"Vulori;c-16662005" wrote:
For me, I expect at some point or another that they will add a few more supernaturals that are fleshed out like vampires. I enjoyed the non-realistic aspects of previous sims games than anything else. If they basically ignore the less 'realistic' aspects of the previous games, then, to me, this is not really a sims game I want to play. I expect to get witches and at least one other supernatural before sims 4 is over. Different people have different reasons they play the game, but I enjoy playing with occult sims more than anything else, always have. I never really took this game as a realistic life simulation game anyway.

I couldn't agree more!
At least give us witches and Servos, the robot life state from TS2.
I think they might add mermaids in a tropical beach expansion, considering it got very high in the voting by SimGuruGrant (second after witches?)

"Dannydanbo;c-16662214" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16661761" wrote:

"Dannydanbo;c-16661090" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16660631" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16660555" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16660232" wrote:
I'm fine with the number we have. I mean, eventually you reach a point where you're creating a completely different type of game.

You mean, the type of game that 2 and 3 BOTH were?

I didn't play much TS3 and didn't play TS2 at all, but I don't think they're under any obligation to remake those two games.

The problem I have with TS4 broadening out in a supernatural direction is that there's still so much missing for a game that considers itself a "life simulation". I can't imagine saying, "Forget about university and vehicles, what we really need are gremlins and faeiries."

Now, if they were to release a standalone title, like Medieval was, that'd be a better option for both the simulation and supernatural sides. Put a different team on it, give it the attention it deserves. I'd play something like that.

Actually, they are under a certain obligation. I, like many others, enjoyed those versions and enjoyed the occult/supernatural sims in particular. So I, and others, bought this version in hopes of seeing how they would be handled in this version. I, and others, don't want a standalone version of supernaturals, we want them in this game, as they have been before.

By your theory, they would have no obligation to make any past packs, like Seasons, University, Pets, any vacation packs or any other packs that were very popular in the past. They just informed us that S4 will go on for at least three more years, so there should be plenty of time to add all of the supernaturals I and others like without forgetting about university or vehicles.

No, by my theory they pick and choose which elements of previous games they want to take forward, and they can leave all the extraneous stuff behind, or at least on the back burner. This way, a game that claims to be a "life simulation" actually stands a chance of realizing that ambition before we all shuffle off this mortal coil.

Well that depends on who is deciding the definition of extraneous. What might be extraneous to you might not be to me and vice versa. That's why I like the way they are doing it. Make packs that they think players will like and let players decide to buy those packs or not. If you think life simulation is limited to human looking and acting sims, then you can do that by not buying any packs with anything else included in it. So, if your game isn't what you want, it's your problem because you made the decision to buy that particular pack.

That would be fine, and don't get me wrong I'm not against supernaturals per se, but development time and resources are finite, and focusing a quarter of a year on a supernatural pack means the chance of them ever getting to some of the more "realistic" aspects of the game decreases, or is at least pushed into far-future irrelevance.

That's why I'd like to see a different team on a really cool standalone supernatural game.

I could understand why some wouldn't want an occult sim added to an expansion pack. I just wish they would add more like they did with Vampires. Then if you didn't want them, you could just choose not to buy it.
Sims 4 Plantsims were a joke. Why even bother?
I had a whole occult family in Sims 2 and Sims 3. I had so much fun.
Zombies were annoying. Leave my dang garden alone.

"So_Money;c-16660232" wrote:
I'm fine with the number we have. I mean, eventually you reach a point where you're creating a completely different type of game.

You mean like Magic Town's all new townies who were almost all some sort of (occult looking) Sim? They need to add some ghouls like those who sell you the green goulash. :D But then again TS4's townies and how they dress at random sure makes up for any lack of weird outfits an occult Sim might pick.

"Dannydanbo;c-16662701" wrote:
What's easier and smarter from a profit perspective, is to keep it the way it has been in past versions so individual players can decide which packs they want in their own game. Not forced to buy standalone packs that can't interact with the main game. I want my occults to live among and interact with "normal" sims in my game, maybe out in the open or hidden behind the scene a la Harry Potter.

Got 1 pack in 4 years, the way they make packs are bias as day.
Alien is half baked, plantsims is a buff a buff like skeleton is a debuff!, can't even create ghost in cas 4 years later yet they force a weather attire in cas.
Many of the packs are questionable like laundry day(who wants to do it virtual?) This is why the sims 4 flop because of bad decisions.

"So_Money;c-16660232" wrote:
I'm fine with the number we have. I mean, eventually you reach a point where you're creating a completely different type of game.

"Haskorentaro;c-16666603" wrote:
Got 1 pack in 4 years, the way they make packs are bias as day.
Alien is half baked, plantsims is a buff a buff like skeleton is a debuff!, can't even create ghost in cas 4 years later yet they force a weather attire in cas.
Many of the packs are questionable like laundry day(who wants to do it virtual?) This is why the sims 4 flop because of bad decisions.

Obviously, everyone plays differently. No two players play the same. Just because you don't want werewolves, or say, laundry, in a pack doesn't mean other players don't. Part of this game is waiting for whatever your thing is even when others get what they want first. And Supernatural stuff brings a huge amount of players in. Taking the supernaturals out of the Sims, or vice versa, makes it lose some of its charm. Personally, I want both. Witches washing clothes, Werewolves taking their cats to the vet, Vampires sucking on the necks of the cities homeless population... Ok, took it a bit too far, sorryboutthat.
But I love the game because it is my prerogative to do that if I want.

And frankly, EA would probably lose money between the number of players leaving from them being separated and the cost to make it.

You just have to wait your turn for whatever you really want like everyone else, unfortunately.

"BoredinTX;c-16670418" wrote:
Werewolves taking their cats to the vet

They should also take themselves to the vet.

"Dannydanbo;c-16662701" wrote:
What's easier and smarter from a profit perspective, is to keep it the way it has been in past versions so individual players can decide which packs they want in their own game. Not forced to buy standalone packs that can't interact with the main game. I want my occults to live among and interact with "normal" sims in my game, maybe out in the open or hidden behind the scene a la Harry Potter.

I do like the "hidden magic" aspect of Harry Potter. It allows us to imagine it is actually real.
However, it has a downside: It never properly explains why it all has to be hidden away. That and the unexplored implications of that makes it hard to enjoy for many people.
Sims has so far not attempted to even answer the question if the existence of the paranormal is publically known or a secret, with evidence towards both answers. This May be a good thing, as Players can think of their own stories and make stuff up that makes sense to them.