Occults need more focus - AGAIN

Aliens need a solid brush-up, they've been left for so long.

Magic was always a cross between OPed and bland.

It really doesn't feel fair to me that the only Occult with any substance is Vampires - and yet they were done so brilliantly. What's so special about vampires? So many people want good Occults. The people who prefer realism are being pandered to - we want more in the game, not less.

When it comes to Nerfing, one must remember that Sims 4 is not a multiplayer game. It's you fighting you.

My biggest thing is I wish spell casters were more out there.

For my story, magic is the very essence of my World.

What I really would love more Magic Social and Club interactions, I'm still disappointed that "Casting Spells" was placed under the Mischief & Mayhem Category, because that not what I wanted for my Mages Club. I wanted to create a club, where my sims Focused on magical studies and how they could use it to advance and manipulate the world around them.

I was hoping magic would be a tool for spell casters to autonomously be more efficient at doing things.
I felt like Magic was suppose to taking things to the next level, not just add alternatives to doing things.

and then I think magic should be a Like/Dislike.

I just wanted to see spell caster to be more natural and liberal with their magic.

Spellcaster who love magic would automatically use their power to do their tasks, rather than doing them manually like average mortals.
and mortals can love magic too, and then Spellcasters could have positive social interactions with sims outside of the Magic community, with humans who enjoy magic, and even flex their magical powers for them.

Spellcasters who dislike magic, won't automatically use their powers, and view magic negatively and Humans will too.

also a "Floralorial All" - Interaction would have been a marvelous spell. especially if you run a farm, and its hot, and it's not going to rain for days,
if my Spellcaster was able to Cast Floralorial over all Plants on the lot at once! <3
Especially if my Sim loves to Garden using magic to take care of the garden would be cool to see if they did it out of their own will.

"Loanet;d-993925" wrote:
We're all saying it. And that's the awful thing.

I know some people really hate Occults. That's okay. But they're being listened to in completely the wrong way. When an Occult first comes out, thatis the first time it arrives in the game, so of course you feel like you're getting a lot of visits from Vampires - they've never even visited before! And yes, visiting every other night is a bit much when it's impossible to wake up in time...

But Occult players are actually in the MAJORITY, from what I've seen. Even those who don't play Occult heavily would rather have the option. If we had perfect realism you would have to choose whether or not to wipe.

Thanks to a handful of really loud people, EA has convinced itself that nobody will buy Occult packs and Sims 4 - with its slightly cartoony style - should be more realistic, when what we want is more DEPTH. So our Occult states are really weak when we know that they could be really strong. Magic users never use Magic, and have very few spells, Vampires and Mermaids rarely visit outside their worlds.

Occults make life deeper too.

No instead they appease the Gamechangers and others who are anti-occult and very vocal about it. Giving us fantasy farming and cottage core instead. Which I would have liked more if they had it in Australia with Australia's Outback and the Aborigines and or Native Americans. Which would I don't know actually added more diversity to the game. Instead, we got "county side" England and nothing utterly British like Tea Time, Eastlanders, Monty Python, Mr Bean, Dr Who etc. added to the game.

There really need to talk to Enchantments in NYC and Pans Apothcary formally known as Panpipes for information because there are some of out there familiar with the myths and for help creating occults to make them less disappointing and lame. I'd be more impressed if they binged watched Supernatural and used that as a base for our needed beloved occults both present and future.

It looks like some kind of rural countryside (and it is very nice to look at) but since Sims doesn't actually take place on Earth, it's not England. Therefore it's not diversity, it's stereotypes.

"Loanet;c-17991481" wrote:
Aliens need a solid brush-up, they've been left for so long.

Magic was always a cross between OPed and bland.

It really doesn't feel fair to me that the only Occult with any substance is Vampires - and yet they were done so brilliantly. What's so special about vampires? So many people want good Occults. The people who prefer realism are being pandered to - we want more in the game, not less.

When it comes to Nerfing, one must remember that Sims 4 is not a multiplayer game. It's you fighting you.

“Magic was always a cross between OPed and bland.”

Thank you! I have never really been able to describe that well.

"SERVERFRA;c-17987361" wrote:
I still so much want my Fairies & Werewolves in Sims 4. Please devs bring them back, pretty please.

Seconded.

But between scenarios and kits (the latter I actually somewhat approve of, since they contain stuff I usually don't want in my game, and thus, are spared from having it forced upon me), I wonder how many years it could take before we get them (that is, if we get both or any at all).

This year gave us the Paranormal, Dream Home Decorator and Cottage Living packs. If 3 packs a year until the end is the deal, it doesn't bode that well for the Occult, certainly not more than 2 of them. I'll be so disappointed if we don't get at least Fairies and Werewolves. And what can I do, besides voicing my vocal displeasure (and how fun is that?)?

Nothing, besides not buying any more packs. And if Sims 5 becomes the online experience, I'll save even more money. Even if it is offline, I will not buy it until much later, if at all.

And if by some miracle, spellcasters, plantsims, aliens and mermaids are upgraded? Wouldn't mind at all, but I'm not holding my breath for it anymore than I do for new Occults.

"SilentKitty;c-17991833" wrote:

"Loanet;c-17991481" wrote:
Aliens need a solid brush-up, they've been left for so long.

Magic was always a cross between OPed and bland.

It really doesn't feel fair to me that the only Occult with any substance is Vampires - and yet they were done so brilliantly. What's so special about vampires? So many people want good Occults. The people who prefer realism are being pandered to - we want more in the game, not less.

When it comes to Nerfing, one must remember that Sims 4 is not a multiplayer game. It's you fighting you.

“Magic was always a cross between OPed and bland.”

Thank you! I have never really been able to describe that well.

no there was times game felt actually magical... like ts1 makin' magic ;)

i think it would have been better with more silliness and less "i shall cheat fancily"

My thing is, why do some players claim that we dont "need" occults because the game is meant to be a "realistic life simulator"? First of all, I dont remember the game ever claiming that it was realistic. 2nd of all if it were "realistic" your sims arent getting a job at the hospital as a surgeon after only playing one hour's worth of chess. Yet I dont see alot of simmers demanding that sims be required to go to school for the high paying jobs since apparently that would be "too realistic" (Lol)

Honestly some realism players need to quit being so horribly melodramatic whenever an occult focused pack dares to rear its ugly head in front of you. Realism play isnt under attack like you think it is, not every pack that comes out is going to be immediately up your alley. And that's true for everyone. Heck, the only pack I legitimately loved (and paid full price for) this year was Paranormal. Everything else (minus the kits because NO) I was lukewarm to whatever about and only got at steep discounts. And Im certainly not calling for gameplay in particular packs to be toned down and nerfed because its getting in the way of other things I want to do. Wish I could say the same for other players.

Another thing: They don’t even have to buy it! It’s an optional pack. You don’t want occults? That’s fine, just don’t buy it and let people who want them be instead of only supporting them adding what YOU want.

Occults make this game for some of us. They make it interesting and just a little more gritty. They add a spice when the basic mechanics lack flavor. We need more them.