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- g01denswanSeasoned Observer
"Stormkeep;c-18071197" wrote:
"simmerorigin;c-18071170" wrote:
They need to quantify the percentage of people who answer "I'm not buying this game pack until the bugs are fixed" TIMES the total amount of lost revenue to estimate the size of the prize for spending money fixing this.
Which is why I said it adds insult to injury. It is a clear message that they don't care about the people who have already bought the pack, because if they did, fixing it for those people would be justification enough.
By "they" I mean higher level management, not the folks who actually worked on the pack. I have no doubt that most, if not all of them, as well as the greater portion of the Sims Team wanted to delay release to get it in better shape in the first place.
I suspect that they are trying to determine whether it’s better to fix it or give refunds. - LiELFSeasoned VeteranThanks for sharing that survey!
I may have unleashed a little bit at the end of it. :s - DaraviNew TravelerI do wonder why they need a survey? Here in their very own forum (and not only here), simmers have explained why they don't buy it (yet), and it's not only the bugs. I mean, I don't use much social media, but I saw how much bad it is from the live stream, how things I really expected ingame and which weren't included and I've decided to wait at least for a sale. I know that I wouldn't get my money back, because they had excluded it from the user agreement and I had to waive of my costumers right for returning things I've bought and installed by downloads. By that ea decision, I won't pre-order anything anymore and will look carefully in advance.
I've read different threads about the gamepack in the last days and I was glad about my decision to wait for it. Normally I'm a first day buyer, but this time, I really want to wait until it's fixed for most of it. It's sad that modders have to create mods to fix what should work as intended in the game. I still want to buy it one day but definitely not in his current status. - logionXSeasoned VanguardGood to see that they are taking feedback, and want raw numbers (not just general feedback) on why people did not buy the pack. Hopefully they will get a clear message here and it can result in some changes. Raw numbers could maybe lead to them prioritizing that their packs are working before release and will maybe get them to assign more engineers or something.
I was pretty clear, I did not buy it because of the bugs. "g01denswan;c-18071288" wrote:
I suspect that they are trying to determine whether it’s better to fix it or give refunds.
If that were the case they would want additional feedback from the people who did buy it, to get a feel for how many are angry, how many are disappointed but still like the pack, and how many are just a-ok with it. So ...I don't think you're right about that.- For me it's not just about the bugs (although i did enphatized it), but also about new and exciting gameplay. Improved weddings should have come with a base game update. Specially when all the events around it (bach party, etc) don't add any new cool gameplay...
- @Daravi
I agree. I dont think they need much more feedback. They know what Simmers want. I just dont think theyre going to do it.. there are a billion feedback threads and that big one they did last year -the one where they had lots of feedback onto what to add to the core of the game and what simmers want. They already know.
But if you buy anyway it doesnt seem to matter much to the higher ups. Thats their business anyway - not pleasing fans but making money. - NightwalkerArkSeasoned NewcomerTold them I wouldn't buy it because lack of gameplay/improved Sims and no occults.
Then, since they asked so nicely, I humbly asked them for an attraction system/gender preferences, Fairies, Werewolves, Dragons and whatever occults they can dream up. I'm expecting them to be very pleased with this suggestion on which direction they should go to next. My friends (and enemies) calls me a hopeless dreamer, but what do they know? (besides everything except The Sims, that is)
Feels good to voice your opinion, even when they send it to the paperbin. "Not another one asking for Occults..."
EDIT: Oh yeah, I might have not so humbly suggested that they improve their Sims instead of a dozen new chairs and tables and worlds that contains basically the same gameplay as the old ones. - I filled out the survey because, like others, I fully intended to buy this pack until I saw how broken it was. I really really do love the CAS and I want the new world but I am absolutely not giving a company money for releasing something in this state and I told them as much. I also said they need to put out a statement and an apology to the community which I don’t think they will do tbh.
- GlacierSnowGhostSeasoned HotshotThanks for providing the survey link. I have not purchased the wedding pack, and I am pleased to see them directly asking for the reasons why. I know it seems unnecessary to a lot of players since many people are talking about the many bugs on this forum and other social media, but as some others have mentioned, to get real data, you need a survey. On social media it can be that a very loud group of people are actually just a tiny fraction of the players. So a survey helps get answers from the quieter simmers.
Also, some of us have more reasons for not having bought the pack than just the bugs. For me, it is also that I am upset about them adding "neighborhood stories" to the base game without giving us a toggle to completely turn it off. I am still on the patch that is prior to that update, because I don't want that feature, and I will not be updating until they give us a way to turn it completely off. This affects my ability to purchase any new packs, not just this one. The survey gave me a chance to make sure they know that.
That being said, they definitely should have another survey to get feedback from the people who did buy it.
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