Re: All the negativity surrounding the Moschino Stuff Pack

"OphiuchuserRules;c-17200100" wrote:

"Pamtastic72;c-17198943" wrote:
I don't see nastiness and negativity on the other platforms the way I do here

Unfortunately, I've just faced the negativity here recently. In short, a person misunderstood my words, accusing me of something that I didn't do, making me be the bad person then told me go somewhere else. I was so shocked about his/her negative words, and it affected me so much that I did consider leaving this forums because of the unfriendly vibe. And what made it worse was that his/her words got a few "like" and "awesome"! I feel so terrible that I don't want to contribute to that thread anymore.

BTW, I'm worrying about OP might get into trouble if that twitter person found out this thread. Aren't you afraid he/she might resort to law or something like that? In my experience, people like that tend to cause trouble, or even ask for it as long as there is a chance. Be careful! You're a nice person by pointing out that people should have done it better. I don't want to see you in any trouble...

I'm fine, by thank you :) I hope you're fine as well and will stay here on the forums. Maybe we can find enoug nice people to overwhelm the negativity. ;)

"Scobre;c-17200140" wrote:

"ChelleJo;c-17192195" wrote:


I firmly believe, had people not been so in a tissy about toddlers, we might not have got them at all. We kept the team on their toes and we let them know that we wanted our toddlers and we weren't gonna drop it. A lot of that turned into too much hate, but I feel the constructive part is what got us our toddlers. So, yes, players... keep the constructive criticism coming. It makes our game better. But keep it respectful, keep it polite and just know, while you might hate one pack, someone else is excited for it.

Also true. Graham even encouraged constructive criticism. Best way to get features into the game is two things: don't put Simmers down and don't put Gurus down.

I was one of the vocal people regarding toddlers. I had a death scare with health problems, so I figured might as well ask for toddlers while I still was alive. Thankfully the surgery was successful and I'm still here today. But yeah at the time I figured even if I couldn't enjoy them, knowing that future Simmers could was enough for me. I ended up getting my favorite toddlers ever in the Sims franchise and got to make many good friends and share ideas along the way.

I think people are just scared to talk to new people especially online. Had I not met a Maxoid in 2010 that has sadly recently passed away, I would never have gotten the guts to join forums or join the Sims community in 2015. He helped give me a voice and I was thrilled he had worked on my favorite Sims version, the Sims 2 since I've been a Simmer since 2002. I really don't trust the whole hater/fan rival going on. I think each Simmer has to prove their own merit on whether they want to be apart of the Sims community or not or be vocal about getting the features they want. All the fights are nonsense and bad enough to have to read and hear about drama on the news. No point having it seep into the Sims community too. Best way to combat hate and bigots online I've learned is displaying the golden rule and try to put yourself in each others shoes and think about the franchise and the game first. We have to ensure the Sims has a bright future because I know for many Simmers it is a way to escape from the violence going around the world. If anything what happened with EA Sports community I hope never happens with the Sims community. We have to prove we are different and try not to repeat history.

If people accepted the differences of others we would have a more peaceful world and thank you so much for acknowledging the efforts of getting a feature into the game. Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall with the Sims community and that only new female outfits matter to the game. I know the Sims community is more diverse and smarter than that and have the capacity to share more ideas than they are sharing now. But I couldn't be prouder of the modding community since many of their content has made it into the game including darker loading screens recently.

This is all I was trying to say with my original post. :)

We had H&M, IKEA, Katy Perry. There's always that stupid fashion pack no one wants but ends up owning anyway, be it through gifts or just for the completion

"Pamtastic72;c-17201541" wrote:
I'm fine, by thank you :) I hope you're fine as well and will stay here on the forums. Maybe we can find enoug nice people to overwhelm the negativity. ;)

Good to know you're okay. I did feel better when you tried to raise the voice of "we can do it better". Otherwise, I was almost convinced of there weren't that many friendly people here. And I'm relieved to see how most of people here are polite and civil. Trust me, there's been a tendency that some people are just being mean on the internet.

As followed are what I noticed about such complainers, I've seen them a lot, it's like they all get the evil or mean traits, or want to work the public enemy aspiration in real life. Those people seem to enjoy being mean or try to pick up a fight. They love to spread their own views on something, and will try so hard to convince others of their own thoughts. If you don't agree with them, they'll keep pushing the topics, leading it into a unnecessary debate. And they'll always try to be the winner out of the argument they start. If fails, oh no they won't accept the fact they're lost! They'll keep push it until it looks like they're winning. Those "debaters" can be easily found on any controversial or sensitive topics, such as politics, religion...etc. The only problem those people have is that they just can't relate to others. They're so self-centered that they just try to make everything become all-about-themselves.

As for how to deal with them? Well, in my experience, they can't be saved unless they want to. Based on my observation, those people seem to have actual issues in real life, instead of facing them, they turn to Internet to "be mad on someone else" to unleash the anger and frustration. They can only save themselves when they try. Trust me, I had bad experiences in my real life with them. Just ignore them. Hopefully, it's only a matter of time they'll "get it" on their own.

"OphiuchuserRules;c-17201998" wrote:

"Pamtastic72;c-17201541" wrote:
I'm fine, by thank you :) I hope you're fine as well and will stay here on the forums. Maybe we can find enoug nice people to overwhelm the negativity. ;)

Good to know you're okay. I did feel better when you tried to raise the voice of "we can do it better". Otherwise, I was almost convinced of there weren't that many friendly people here. And I'm relieved to see how most of people here are polite and civil. Trust me, there's been a tendency that some people are just being mean on the internet.

As followed are what I noticed about such complainers, I've seen them a lot, it's like they all get the evil or mean traits, or want to work the public enemy aspiration in real life. Those people seem to enjoy being mean or try to pick up a fight. They love to spread their own views on something, and will try so hard to convince others of their own thoughts. If you don't agree with them, they'll keep pushing the topics, leading it into a unnecessary debate. And they'll always try to be the winner out of the argument they start. If fails, oh no they won't accept the fact they're lost! They'll keep push it until it looks like they're winning. Those "debaters" can be easily found on any controversial or sensitive topics, such as politics, religion...etc. The only problem those people have is that they just can't relate to others. They're so self-centered that they just try to make everything become all-about-themselves.

As for how to deal with them? Well, in my experience, they can't be saved unless they want to. Based on my observation, those people seem to have actual issues in real life, instead of facing them, they turn to Internet to "be mad on someone else" to unleash the anger and frustration. They can only save themselves when they try. Trust me, I had bad experiences in my real life with them. Just ignore them. Hopefully, it's only a matter of time they'll "get it" on their own.

Quite often, they don't even play the game - they're simply parrotting opinions they've seen elsewhere. They'll insist that a feature is bugged or missing, when it isn't, because that's what they saw on reddit or wherever. When I realise that I'm in that situation, I stop feeding the troll and let it go. Not worth my time or blood pressure. I've got a game to play, you know?

"Finbar659;c-17201404" wrote:
https://twitter.com/pictureamoebae/status/1159070080468213760?s=20

This tweet, I disagree. That's not how stuff packs were made in first place. They were made for stuff, not some additional game-play. I don't mind people adoring their stuff packs for The Sims 4 but I just don't support the "idea" of stuff packs that was made for The Sims 4 compared to the previous series. It just screams "Gimme your money"

Edited: However I do see your point, name calling and all that is unnecessary

And now they are made this way. It was announced when they changed the price from 20 bucks to 10 bucks for Sims 4 and after a lot of people in earlier games asked why stuff packs were nothing but stuff when we wanted game play. I have been thrilled since they came out with Sims 4 stuff packs for only 10 bucks and includes a new game play item etc.

Sims 1 had no stuff packs - sims 2 and 3 had 20 dollar stuff packs ( at least one was 30 dollars in 3 even) and now we get the best of both worlds same amount of stuff, most better quality, game play an all for 10 bucks or less. I'm happy and enjoy every one of them. I do not want mods and CC in my developing game as I don't like bugs and I hardly ever have bugs I my game.

There's a huge sale on for lots of Origin games so Simmers who haven't got some of the EPs and GPs can get them much cheaper and for those who rate other games like Cities-Skylines they've got those too- very cheap those!

Some good news for us Sims 4 Simmers .....
https://twitter.com/SimGuruFrost/status/1162133390235066368

This is one of those packs that will be love or hate, with little middle ground. I personally don't like it, but have kept comments to the what and why, and realize my views were formed a half century before most of yours, and a lot (most?) of you weren't even on the planet yet.

That there would be an eventual brand link is not a surprise. What is one is that the link is with a 'who?' brand, not one that's well known and generally liked. If this was a car game, which would be a better link, Aston Martin or Yugo?

There is no justification for the verbal abuse. This isn't Washington D.C., so how about we try to be civil to one another. If memory serves, the moderators have the power to shut down anyone breaking the rules, so perhaps the incorrigibles should find themselves on the receiving end of some old-fashioned discipline. This is a game, we're all in the soup together, so let's bring back some old behaviors and attitudes like civility, decency, politeness, good manners and such like.

"invisiblgirl;c-17202502" wrote:
they don't even play the game

This is what I'm concerned: why they ask for trouble if they don't even play?

"invisiblgirl;c-17202502" wrote:
I stop feeding the troll and let it go.

Funny thing is that those people will draw the same as them, they'll keep fighting because they all have problems. If they're actual sims, they should start a club which encourages members to fight, be mean with each other. Imagine how many club points they can make! People are getting weird and weird nowadays on Internet...I wish they can learn what you did: let it go.

"Scobre;c-17200147" wrote:

"filipomel;c-17192104" wrote:
Humans will be humans, we get defensive over everything ?‍♀️

It actually isn't a human trait. Humanity has quite a different definition: " compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity

I was actually talking about this with a friend that works in the gaming industry which I call the Sims complex ironically. Like how people are trying to control others like they do their Sims which is basically the god complex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex. People can't be controlled, they have free will and many struggle with that concept that free will only applies to them and not to others, that their rights only matter and no one else matters. It is like humanity is going away from society and people are expected to be perfect little robots instead of being human.

That actually explains a lot. I'm also sick and tired of this 'humans will be humans' excuse, since all it does is show that someone is refusing to take responsibility for their screw-ups and refusing to improve themselves.

"MMX;c-17204138" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17200147" wrote:

"filipomel;c-17192104" wrote:
Humans will be humans, we get defensive over everything ?‍♀️

It actually isn't a human trait. Humanity has quite a different definition: " compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity

I was actually talking about this with a friend that works in the gaming industry which I call the Sims complex ironically. Like how people are trying to control others like they do their Sims which is basically the god complex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex. People can't be controlled, they have free will and many struggle with that concept that free will only applies to them and not to others, that their rights only matter and no one else matters. It is like humanity is going away from society and people are expected to be perfect little robots instead of being human.

That actually explains a lot. I'm also sick and tired of this 'humans will be humans' excuse, since all it does is show that someone is refusing to take responsibility for their screw-ups and refusing to improve themselves.

That describes history in a nutshell.

Historically, humans aren't exactly notorious for being humane. The definition of the word is... painfully ironic.

"Scobre;c-17200147" wrote:
...people are expected to be perfect little robots instead of being human

Welcome to the working world!

...No, seriously. Most employers are offended their employees have a life outside of work.