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Ulf-Gunnel
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4 years ago

REFRESH THE CAREER SYSTEM - Do You Want This?

Hi Simmers!

Hope you all doing well out there!

I think the current Career system need a Refresh (been there since Sims 1) and wrote down some ideas.

😊 Does it sounds interesting or not? Don’t be shy, I’m interested in what you think! 😊

😊AND FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR IDEAS! 😊


OVERHAUL OF THE CAREER SYSTEM
1. More Freelance careers (Musician / Artist / Caterer / etc)
2. Athletic career changed into Competing careers (Competition & Sponsor gigs!)
3. All NPC-careers as playable careers
4. Restaurant employees as playable careers (+Hire Family members)
5. Multiple Freelance careers at the same time (ex. Actor + Comedian)
6. Freelance careers / 1 Competing career +1 Regular career at the same time
7. Careers having Career Aspirations with Rewards
8. Current Skill Shape info tab on Skills (perform the activity regularly to keep in shape)
9. A career History (see your sims previous careers)
10. Work Reputation on all jobs
11. Select Workplace on careers (ex. an Office) +Work At Prefered Lot job option
12. Regular careers: Salary Levels instead of multiple Career titles
(ex. Employed Musican with Salary levels instead of Professional Pianist => Symphonic String player).
13. NEW LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
-Daily offers on which jobs are available
-CV:s / Job Interviews / Licences for certain jobs
This means: Multiple possibilities to get a certain job! Ex. Skills / Degree / Recommendations / Right connections / Dubious methods ex. Fake Licenses & Bribing / etc.


  • CV:s & CV POINTS ✔️ ❌ LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
    Your sims CV will show the total amount of CV points (and where you collected them). Higher score = improves chance of getting the job. Some jobs require higher CV points (Ex. the CEO). Once you get the job, your career works as usual (level up skills for promotion).

    Increase CV points ✔️
    1. Work Reputation (High)
    2. Work Performance (High)
    3. Reputation (High, Get Famous EP)
    4. Fame level (Get Famous EP)
    5. Grades from High school (High)
    6. Completed Career Aspirations
    7. University Degree
    8. Suitable skills (depending on branch)
    9. Previous Careers (Criminal careers not included / Working in similar Careers = Higher points / High-ranking careers = Higher points)
    10. Previous Salary levels
    11. Current Recommendations, Certain sims give Higher points (chance to get Recommended if having a High relationship with earlier Co-worker or CEO / Ask sims to give a recommendation / Bribe sim to give recommendation)

    Decrease CV points ❌
    1. Work Reputation (Low)
    2. Work Performance (Low)
    3. Reputation (Low, Get Famous EP)
    4. Grades from High school (Low)
    5. Demoted / Fired
    6. Dissuasion from other sims (Keep on good foot with the right sims!)
    7. Crimes & Punishment (Repo-man / Caught for a crime & Punished ex. jail)
    8. Worked in Criminal career (or is this a “secret” career?)

  • JOB INTERVIEWS 👨‍💼 LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
    Check daily job offers online. Pick a job, get some (optional) Preparatory tasks and a scheduled Job Interview (Sim will be sent to Rabbit Hole). Freelance careers are always available (no need for CV or Job interview).

    Increase chance of getting the job:
    1. CV points (High)
    2. High Needs / Confident or Happy / Completed Preparatory tasks
    3. Charisma skill (High)
    4. Relationship with CEO (High)
    5. Bribe the CEO (Higher chance = If high Charisma skill / The CEO has the Materialistic Trait)

  • LICENCES & FAKE LICENCES 📜 LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
    • Some careers needs a LICENCE (Toggle on / off)
    • Sims that have an University Degree can order a LICENCE online (Money fee + Take a test)
    • Different Degrees offer different Licenses: ex. The Biology Degree offer Nurse License & Doctor License.
    • Pay for a Fake LICENCE / Cleaning up your CV but risk of getting caught and punished ex. Jail / Money / Decreased CV points. Lower risk of getting caught if your sim have a High Mischief skill or Working in a Criminal career.


  • SKILLS UPDATE: CURRENT SHAPE & LOSING SKILLS
    Spoiler
    • All skills will have a skill Info panel that show Current Skill Shape
    • Not performing a skill for a while = Decrease the Current Skill Shape
    • Very low Current Shape for a longer period of time (We talking age stages!) = risk to lose some skill levels.
    • Current Skill Shape are especially important for some Freelance careers & Competing careers (Musician / Soccer player / Competing Snowboarder / etc).



  • NEW LOT TYPE: WORKPLACE LOT - WORK AT PREFERED LOT
    Spoiler

    • New Lot Trait: Workplace (ex. A park / an Office building)
    • Select which Careers that are Linked to the lot.
    • Sims in these Careers will spawn on this lot and work at their work hours. Some sims can spawn after their work hours to work overtime (Higher chance if the sim is: Ambitious / Work alcoholic / Responsible / etc).
    • Select a Workplace for your sim and choose Work At Prefered Lot option when sending your sim to work. This will send the sim to the selcted lot +multiple Daily Tasks to complete



  • FREELANCE CAREERS 🌟
    1. ARTIST 🎨 (Gigs: Painting / Wood working / Sculpting / Glas blowing / etc)
    2. MUSCIAN 🎙️ (Gigs: Singing / DJ / Drums / Saxophone / etc)
    3. COMPOSER 🎼 (Gigs: Music production skill / Composing skill)
    4. ENTERTAINER 🤡 (Gigs: Comedy)
    5. CATERER 🥘 (Gigs: Find out customer’s wishes / Kind of event / Allergies / Favorite Food & Drink / Theme. Prepare food at home & take to Rabbit hole / Prepare food at a Party / Event)
    6. PHOTOGRAPHER 📷 (Gigs: Family photos / Nature photos ex. Take a photo of a Fox fighting a Bunny).
    7. OUTDOOR SPORT INSTRUCTOR 🥾 (Gigs: Skiing / Snowboarding / Fishing / Hiking / etc)
    8. FREELANCE JOURNALIST 📰 (Gigs: Interview Celebrity / Investigating reportage / Review new Movie = Functional Rabbit Hole Cinema / Travel Reportage = Travel + Perform activities + Meet locals + Taste local Food & Drinks / etc)
    +All current Freelance careers
  • COMPETING CAREERS & SPONSOR GIGS 💪 (Overhaul of the Athlete career!)
    ⚽ SOCCER PLAYER / 🏀 BASKETBALL PLAYER
    • 1 Rabbit Hole Stadium (visitable) + 2 Rival Soccer Teams ⚽ + 2 Rival Basket Teams 🏀
    • Sims need to show of their ability (go to Rabbit hole, similar to Job interviews) to get the job
    • Match every Saturday + weekly Tasks (improve chances of winning).
    • Improved pop-ups (To much random result! To less visuals! The pop-up Doesn’t show what sim it affects!).
    • Increase chance of winning: Completed weekly tasks / Mood / Injuries / Skill level / Current skill shape / Team relationships / Training sessions.


    Salary: Money + Fame
    Only payment for completed Matches (depending on the result). Higher Career level = Higher Payment.
    Career Levels: 1-5+
    Weekly Tasks: Work out 1 hour for 5 days / Stretch / Get a massage / Visit Hospital and get treatment (Visitable Hospitals)

    💪 BODYBUILDER / 💻 E-SPORT GAMER / ⛷️ PROFESSIONAL SKIIER / 🏂🏿 PROFESSIONAL SNOWBOARDER / 🏊🏽 PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER / ⛸️ PROFESSIONAL ICE SKATER
    • All of above skills added as separate skills (ex. Swimming / Skating / etc) . Most Fitness skills (ex. Swimming) also level up Fitness.


    Salary: Money + Fame
    Only payment for completed Competitions (depending on the result). Higher Difficulty level on Competition = Higher Payment.
    Career Levels: 1-5+
    Competitions: (Various of Gigs on your chosen skill, 3 Difficulty levels: Easy / Medium / Hard)

    SPONSOR GIGS
    Sims can do Sponsor Gigs from a Career level 2+. This will give sims an income between Matches / Competitions. Sponsor gigs can decrease / increase a Sims Work Reputation / Reputation / Fame / Relationsships.

    Sponsor Gigs: Wear an (ridiculous) outfit in a Public area / TV advertisement / Publish a Simsta story or Blog post / Take photo wearing a certain outfit / Take a photo Eating or Drinking specific things / Record a video when using an item +publish / Attend event / Attend location (ex. specific bar) multiple times

  • REGULAR CAREERS 💼
    BUSSINESS CAREER 📈
    Janitor (5 salary levels)
    Secretary = Business Secretary (5 Salary levels)
    Office worker (10 Salary levels)
    Accountant (5 Salary levels) LICENCE
    Business CEO (endless Salary levels)

    ACTIVE CAREER
    Investor (Salary depends on your investments. Invest in ex. Restaurants / Retails / Rabbit holes in your save. Introduce Banks & Loans and Functional Rabbit holes (THREAD).

    MEDICINE CAREER (Doctor Career) 🩺
    Janitor Hospital (5 salary levels)
    Secretary = Medical Secretary(5 Salary levels)
    Assistant nurse (5 Salary levels)
    Nurse (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
    Doctor (10 salary levels) LICENCE
    Hospital CEO (endless Salary levels)

    CULINARY CAREERS 🍳
    Spoiler
    Pastry chef & Baker (5 Salary levels)
    Chef (5 Salary levels)
    Bartender (5 Salary levels) -Spawn as Bartenders in bars!

    Playable Restaurant Employees: Chef / Host / Waitress

    EDUCATION CAREER 🍎
    Janitor = School Janitor (5 salary levels)
    Kindergarten Teacher (10 Salary Levels, Active career)
    Grade school Teacher (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
    Professor (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
    Choose 1 - Multiple Subjects: Art / History / Psychology / etc = will affect your Salary and required Skills for Promotion. Spawn as Professor in your save & don’t lose their job when played.
    Education CEO = Head Chancellor (endless Salary levels)
    JOURNALISM CAREER 📰
    Spoiler
    Secretary Journalism (5 Salary levels)
    Employed Journalist (10 Salary Levels)
    Journalism CEO = Editor-in-Chief (endless Salary levels)

    ATHLETE 💪
    Spoiler
    Personal trainer (5 salary levels) -spawn as Personal Trainers on gyms
    Athletic Instructor (5 salary levels)
    Choose 1 - Multiple Subjects: Soccer / Basket / Swimming / Skating / etc = will affect your Salary and required Skills for Promotion.

    NPC CAREERS - PLAYABLE 🧑🏾‍🤝‍🧑🏽
    All NPC careers as regular playable careers: Librarian / Repairman / Maid / etc.

    And so on... (more careers!)

  • CAREER ASPIRATIONS
    Spoiler
    Most of the Regular careers has Career Aspirations with multiple Tasks / Milestones. Complete the Aspiration to get a Salary raise + Reward.

    Janitor Aspiration (REWARD: Handy Trait)
    Secretary Aspiration (REWARD: Quick reader Trait)
    Office worker Aspiration
    Investor Aspiration
    Kindergarten teacher Aspiration (REWARD: Kid Friendly Trait)
    Grade school teacher Aspiration (REWARD: Pedagogical Trait)
    Nurse Aspiration (REWARD: Nurturing Trait)
    Doctor Aspiration (REWARD: Medicine Maker B&B object)
    CEO Aspiration (REWARD: The Boss Trait)
    Culinary Aspiration (Chef & Pastry chef / REWARD: Ability to do Tv-gigs = Money + Fame)





:) <3 HAPPY SIMMING EVERYONE! <3 :)

  • User_577435777's avatar
    User_577435777
    4 years ago
    I started a whole thread on game development. This ties in with the programming/Tech Guru stuff.

    https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/993546/should-they-do-an-overhaul-or-ep-for-game-development#latest
  • Ulf-Gunnel's avatar
    Ulf-Gunnel
    New Spectator
    4 years ago
    "Gamer_34567544;c-17970014" wrote:
    I started a whole thread on game development. This ties in with the programming/Tech Guru stuff.

    https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/993546/should-they-do-an-overhaul-or-ep-for-game-development#latest


    Posted in the thread, but I just wanna say: Like the idea! Things like that would give more creativity to careers!
  • VWoodsong's avatar
    VWoodsong
    Seasoned Observer
    4 years ago
    I wouldn't mind if existing careers were to get some love in the parts that don't currently work well, but I don't have interest in anything nearly so detailed as the description in the top post. I only occasionally play careers at all with my sims because sim careers are not why I play this game in the first place.
  • Bluebell23456's avatar
    Bluebell23456
    4 years ago
    Some things yes, some things no. I don't really want to do the CV and interview part every time I need a new job and I, quite frankly, sometimes cannot be bothered with active careers. So super tedious things I want to avoid, but if they were implemented in an accessible manner I would not necessarily mind. Then again, I also have a history with the career friendship requirement mechanics and kind of despise them independently. I would have to see the details, more or less. This all being said, 4's career system could indeed use more depth and always could use more options.

    I specifically want to be able to assign Sims to/actively control Sims in NPC jobs in retail and restaurants like with vet clinics. If I can assign more, even better. I also want to get rid of the arbitrary branching barriers. If my Sims want to have both the chef and mixologist branches under their belts, they should be allowed to. Career aspirations are an interesting idea because some aspirations do involve that, but it is generally not that fulfilling to climb to the top of the career ladder in 4. I do think there needs to be more incentives to it, but I am not sure if having an aspiration for every career is the right way to go even if it worked in 3. Career traits might have to be the thing that makes playing renaissance Sims special.

    Something I do not want is to take away careers. For example, I do not mind entertainers getting freelance elements or a freelance equivalent, but do not take away the standardized path either. One of interesting things about careers is that there can be so many different variations and paths, so I would want to avoid stripping any of variation it already has.
  • Babykittyjade's avatar
    Babykittyjade
    New Observer
    4 years ago
    Honestly not much of a career payer but this really does sound awesome! I love the thought you always put into your ideas and the way or color and organize it. It's a YES from me.

    Although on a side note everyone wants EVERYTHING refreshed now?? I could be wrong but I doubt they would go and refresh the entire game and all 40 packs AND for free lol
  • User_577435777's avatar
    User_577435777
    4 years ago
    "Babykittyjade;c-17970166" wrote:
    Honestly not much of a career payer but this really does sound awesome! I love the thought you always put into your ideas and the way or color and organize it. It's a YES from me.

    Although on a side note everyone wants EVERYTHING refreshed now?? I could be wrong but I doubt they would go and refresh the entire game and all 40 packs AND for free lol


    My guess is they refresh things based on popularity. What do people want refreshed the most?
  • Bluebell23456's avatar
    Bluebell23456
    4 years ago
    "Gamer_34567544;c-17970172" wrote:
    "Babykittyjade;c-17970166" wrote:
    Honestly not much of a career payer but this really does sound awesome! I love the thought you always put into your ideas and the way or color and organize it. It's a YES from me.

    Although on a side note everyone wants EVERYTHING refreshed now?? I could be wrong but I doubt they would go and refresh the entire game and all 40 packs AND for free lol


    My guess is they refresh things based on popularity. What do people want refreshed the most?


    Dine Out seems to be majority opinion. At least the vocal majority. I am not so convinced it is based on popularity, though. The new content schedule never really seemed super based on popular opinion, even if you argue they eventually got around to this or that. I certainly do not think popularity explains why Spa Day specifically was chosen. The live stream only mentioned its age as a factor, but there was no explanation for the full decision process.

    Personally a C&D refresh would make my month, perhaps my game, but I am probably in the minority.
  • SEREFRAS's avatar
    SEREFRAS
    Rising Hotshot
    4 years ago
    The Scientist Career in Get To Work needs to be refreshed so that we can play the Scientist going to work in the Secret Lab in Strangerville. It only has the poor civilians doing that. It's about time for the Scientists to do that. Also, I think the Scientist should be able to turn the tables on those mean Aliens that keep getting our abducted males pregnant. Just a thought. ;) :p

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