Regarding Premades Lore Updates

When update Willow Creek, I hope than Pancakes household include their toddler

I just tested again. Only the names of the premades were reset at some point. The calientes still had the other hairstyles and skintones given by me. The goths were still spellcasters, which is what I changed about them. The sages took a little longer than usual to arrive at the magic realm but looked as I intended them to look in their NPC role. I redid their names in my last play session and they were as I wanted them to be after loading up the game again. So they did not revert back again.

As these are the only characters I edited, I am not too troubled atm. I just hope this won't happen with every update because I think that was when they got messed up.

"Keidra;c-17951683" wrote:

"mightysprite;c-17951497" wrote:
wow- I wonder if Keidra or Kellogg_J_Kellogg or others who play with heavily modified premades are having this issue?

I am playing almost all premades right now but I haven't changed them in CAS. Just regular aging and gameplay developments. Haven't noticed anything odd.

If you mean Ezio, he's not built off Morgyn. As in, I didn't just grab Morgyn, do a makeover, and end up with Ezio, he was created as a separate Sim, thus the game wouldn't recognise him as a Morgyn clone.
I do this with all premade Sims I play heavily.

I will have to do that too and need to look up the necessary traits for sages if the changing names will be a recurring problem.

"Atreya33;c-17951692" wrote:
I will have to do that too and need to look up the necessary traits for sages if the changing names will be a recurring problem.

trait_MagicSage_Mischief
trait_MagicSage_Untamed
trait_MagicSage_Practical

For anyone that does actually need them to make this stop, or otherwise wants to manually assign their sages.

"Keidra;c-17951773" wrote:

"Atreya33;c-17951692" wrote:
I will have to do that too and need to look up the necessary traits for sages if the changing names will be a recurring problem.

trait_MagicSage_Mischief
trait_MagicSage_Untamed
trait_MagicSage_Practical

For anyone that does actually need them to make this stop, or otherwise wants to manually assign their sages.

Thanks

Glad they're updating the townies.They're in need of some love and attention. Hopefully their relationships and personalities get a touch up. :D

"83bienchen;c-17950149" wrote:
I care about the updated lore in the way that I would rather not have it for existing premades. I suppose they are trying to please the gamechangers that are freaking out about lore all the time. I'd much rather have them spend their ressources elsewhere.

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I think lore is such an essential part of what made simmers love the game to begin with. We developed attachments to pre-mades through their story lines, personalities and relationships with other townies. It made them feel real and because they felt real - we cared. :)

"Plumbots_United;c-17951630" wrote:
the only game in the sims series that is missing lore is the sims urbz, sims 2 console, sims 2 pets console and sims 2 castaway console

In Sims 2 on console Dina, Nina, and Don were a part of a household called the Jugen House. They lived there with another male sim named Toothless Joe who runs the household that the game called a "youth hostel." Betty and Bob Newbie are free-play characters in this game as well, but they have different appearances from PC games. Patrizio and Isabella Monty are also in the game and they run a "bed and breakfast" type lot that you help renovate. The last sim that returned from the PC lore was Goopy GilsCarbo, he lived on a Japanese inspired lot that was technically a spa with three other sims. The rest of the sims I believe are unique to the game.

For Sims 2 Pets I think only Betty and Bob Newbie returned. They had a Dalmatian. Sims Urbz I don't remember much but I believe most if not all the characters in that game were unique to it, and I've never played Sims 2 Castaway. I played a ton of Bustin' Out and Sims 2 though so hope this helps!

I don’t know about the consoles, but I remember playing Mortimer's parents in the sims 1 on PC, with their 2 Siamese cats in the large house with the graveyard, I think his Dad was a Judge, not sure though. I gave my Goths 4 sims a Siamese kitten, and moved them to Forgotten Hollow, and put Mortimers parents grsves there. Because of course the Goths belong there!

And didn’t Bella go Missing in the Sims 2 for PC? But once in awhile you would catch a glimpse of her in her red dress?

The Goths made more of an impression on me than any other Sims did…

Hopefully we will get a Gothic stuff pack!!

"mightysprite;c-17951497" wrote:
wow- I wonder if @Keidra or @Kellogg_J_Kellogg or others who play with heavily modified premades are having this issue?

I am playing almost all premades right now but I haven't changed them in CAS. Just regular aging and gameplay developments. Haven't noticed anything odd.

For Sim 66 I decided to keep the premades and retcon them to suit the 1960s. That mainly involved changing their clothing and parts of their houses. Some, like the BFF's, I heavily modified but the Goths I didn't change at all; they've always looked retro and it's in keeping with them that they always look a little out of time. Not many of the other premades have featured heavily in the story so I can't remember what I did with all of them: Johnny Zest and the Spencer-Kim-Lewis families didn't need much alteration. Yuki and Candy Behr did need a lot of changes, Eliza Pancakes didn't need much doing but Bob did.

As for names and backstories, I used the Sims Wiki as my guide. There's lots of hints, suggestions and tantalising hooks if you read those and I've kept them in Sim 66: Bella's mysterious disappearance, the Pancakes' troubled marriage, Johnny's estrangement, Summer loves Travis, Brent and Brandt are a gay couple, the suspicion Jacques Villareal killed his wife and the Landgraabs being ruthless and criminal. I've run with all those ideas and I think they work in-game.

If EA change the backstories and names then I'm not going to retcon Sim 66 to follow suit. What has been established so far will remain that way. Of course any new premades who haven't featured in the story will follow the new updated backstories.

"calaprfy;c-17951977" wrote:

"Plumb0b_Claire;c-17951910" wrote:

"83bienchen;c-17950149" wrote:
I care about the updated lore in the way that I would rather not have it for existing premades. I suppose they are trying to please the gamechangers that are freaking out about lore all the time. I'd much rather have them spend their ressources elsewhere.

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I think lore is such an essential part of what made simmers love the game to begin with. We developed attachments to pre-mades through their story lines, personalities and relationships with other townies. It made them feel real and because they felt real - we cared. :)

But when all the premades die, what then?

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Depends on the type of players out there!

Legacy, generation-type players - those who will continue to play with the pre-mades offspring when they pass. Plus, just because the premades die, doesn't mean they shouldn't be included to begin with. The pre-mades became a central part of what made a lot of simmers love the game. I think it's why so many are passionate about them being included in the Sims 4 and being fixed. :)