Regarding Premades Lore Updates

I'm glad we got a heads up, because even though I couldn't care less about the majority of premades, there are some households that I am very attached to. These few I saved to my library to preserve them in the state they are now. The changes will only be in new saves, so I should be save, but on the other hand old saves sometimes break with patches or corrupt naturally, so having options is always good.

I expect small, unintrusive things like personalized swimwear for the basegame sims, along with more far reaching changes. They might also add new skills from the later packs to the premades, what could already lead into trampling over player decisions (are Wolfgang Munch and Ulrike Faust trained in Vampire lore or not?). They will definitely add Likes and Dislikes to everyone and this is where I draw the line. I don't want to spend hours to correct EA lore to my own. Or repair relationships, because EA WILL give the BFF women romance bars with Scott. They want us to play relationship drama with them, whereas I see these three as harmonic (either really only friends or a happy threemating). They may even go as far as adding Iggy to the Pancake family. I don't hate the little guy, but to me he is prove that Bob and Eliza repaired their relationship. So he shouldn't exist in the beginning of a new save.

Honestly, to me forcing lore or even visual changes into the game feels like an author taking over a fanfic site and correcting each and every fic with their own canon about the characters.

"somewhsome;c-17950249" wrote:

"GirlFromIpanema;c-17950238" wrote:
I'd love for them to stop being so cryptic and actually tell us what they are doing to avoid all this speculation. Speculation during upcoming pack releases can be fun, but this is different.

Also, I start new saves to play specific families sometimes, so that doesn't make me feel any better. I'm really dreading this, if I'm honest. :lol:

Why not just add the new pre-mades to the library and let us choose to replace them if we wish?

I know some players are looking forward to the NPC updates, and no disrespect to them! I'm sure I'll get used to it.

I guess because they want them to have proper relationships and maybe sentiments toward each other.

In general, I don't mind it. I don't think it will affect existing saves, so that's okay, and it would be nice if Pancakes really had bad relationship and Johnny Zest was related to Landgraabs.

This makes sense. I do mind at the moment, but I don't like change (and am definitely a control freak) but that's my issue, not the developers'. :lol: I'm sure once we find out more and I get used to the idea I'll be fine haha.

"EnkiSchmidt;c-17950256" wrote:
I'm glad we got a heads up, because even though I couldn't care less about the majority of premades, there are some households that I am very attached to. These few I saved to my library to preserve them in the state they are now.

This is such a good idea! I think I will go in and save my favourite pre-mades incase I don't like the changes. :smile: I feel so silly not think of this, but it definitely makes me feel better about it all.

We have played with these sims for 7 years so I think we have all formed our own views of what these sims like and dislike and played several stories with them... but I'm curious what they will do, I'm hoping for more relationships, likes and dislikes and sentiments that makes them more interesting.

I can't imagine that this will change existing saves so I will probably start a new game to see what they changed and possibly make those changes in my old saves, at least those with aging turned off.

I don't mind them doing this now, I'm hoping that their changes will not spark controversy though. I think a lot of people like you said have their own views of what these premades are like, how they should look, which sims they like and what they like to do.

It's seven years later and they're finally adding lore to this game.
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It should have been there from day 1 instead of this lazy "alternate universe".

I'm absolutely for any updates, I just hope they add the ability to assign npc roles to any sim in the game.

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"83bienchen;c-17950149" wrote:
I'd much rather have them spend their resources elsewhere.

Absolutely agree. They should spend time fixing bugs or any other more concerning technical problems
Because we definitely can add lore to them ourselves.

I also do not know if anyone notices. After the newest update, if we renamed the premades, it comes back to their initial names.
For instance, Olive Tinker has got her name back after I renamed her Dee P. Tinker before

I’m happy for this update. I have missed the Sims having lore and proper relationships set up. However I’m playing in a two year old save and it won’t actually affect my game unless I start over which I’m not prepared to do at this point.

My predictions for the base game worlds:
*Summer and Liberty will both have Smitten sentiments towards Travis.
*Bob and Eliza will have negative sentiments towards each other (either Hurt or Festering Grudge).
*Iggy will exist in the base game.
*Johnny Zest will be properly linked to the Landgraabs and have negative sentiments towards them (and vice versa).
*Don will have romantic relationships with the Calientes.
*Preferences for everyone.

I'm surprised to see some of y'all saying you're not interested in the lore updates, this is honestly huge news in my personal opinion. As it is now, townies in the default save are exactly that, default. They all have default relationships with one another, default features according to what packs they came in, etc. and for a simulation game, when everything starts in the default, it tends to stay in the default, especially in Sims 4. This news really excites me because they have added many features since the launch of the base game that are simply absent from the majority of the game, making a large portion of the game, at least in a new save, feel very incomplete to me. For one, Sims released before Snowy Escape/Dream Home Decorator are completely void of two of the biggest personality additions to the game, sentiments and likes/dislikes, sims outside Windenburg won't be found in clubs, lots pre lot trait patch don't have any lot traits, pets aren't found anywhere outside of Brindleton bay, sims pre seasons don't have hot/cold weather outfits or preferences, Sims lack relevant reputation and celebrity levels (even after the release of Get Famous), sims lack relevant university degrees, every neighborhood outside of Evergreen harbour is in a neutral state, Sims don't have lifestyles, or character value traits, basically there are a lot of gaps and inconsistencies in the base save, I don't think many players realize how much these additions would add to the overall experience. Ideally they would also work with game changers to renovate most of the terrible, terrible, terrible lots as well. That's saying they go this in depth with each sim/household, I don't expect they will, but any kind of update to the lore will be much appreciated to me.